A taste of UK motoring here in CT

[pgerhardt]

OK, it was time to purge my 29 tudor of crap gas before winter storage. So I drove 20 minutes with my two 6 gallon containers to the nearest place that sells ethanol free gas. One hundred and twenty dollars later (That is the UK part.) I made my way home with my precious liquid cargo.

I drained the crap gas from my tudor and topped off the tank with 100% real gas, and since this is the first time I have topped it off, I inspected the gas gauge. It doesn't leak!

Then it was time for a nice 30 minute drive to purge any remaining crap gas from the fuel system. It was a beautiful day for the drive.

The only negative (other than the price) is that now that my tudor is ready for winter it is time to stop playing, and get on with the winter restoration projects.

[1931 flamingo]

Where did you get it?? I would still add StaBil, SeaFoam and dry gas. JMO

Paul in CT Probably some MMO also.

[spdway1]

Paul, All THREE?

[Jwilli]

I buy ethanol free gas for less than $3 per gal in Ga. $10 per gal seems very high.

[CarlG]

$2.21/ga yesterday for "real" gasoline here.

[Mitch//pa]

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Originally Posted by CarlG

$2.21/ga yesterday for "real" gasoline here.

you guys get all the bargains

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

you guys get all the bargains

My neighbor just filled and stored his Jeep and Studebaker today and the price was $3.27 a gallon.

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

Where did you get it?? I would still add StaBil, SeaFoam and dry gas. JMO

Paul in CT Probably some MMO also.

I did add stabil. Ethanol free SUNOCO racing fuel is available at:

Layton Richard T Company
19 Danbury Rd.
New Milford, CT
860-354-4888

[pgerhardt]

$2.21, $3.27, Yeah. Yeah, I know. We also have a state income tax that would suck the life out of you, and enough snow that my ice melt budget was over $1000 last winter!

On Thanksgiving remember to take a moment to be thankful you live where you do!

[Quigley1930]

$1.99/gal. today in Winchester Va. Ethanol and straight gas the same price.

Sewall

[Hoogah]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

My neighbor just filled and stored his Jeep and Studebaker today and the price was $3.27 a gallon.

Most of you guys don't know how lucky you are in the USA. Unleaded petrol here (you'd call it straight gas, but our unleaded can have up to 10% ethanol) here is currently around $1.25/litre.

Doing the math: $1.25 x 3.8 litres/US gall x 0.72 exchange rate = $3.42/US gall.

Just as well our gallons are bigger than yours (except in TX, probably!). That must help somehow? Oh yeah, it makes our fuel tanks smaller.

[Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by Hoogah

Most of you guys don't know how lucky you are in the USA. Unleaded petrol here (you'd call it straight gas, but our unleaded can have up to 10% ethanol) here is currently around $1.25/litre.

Doing the math: $1.25 x 3.8 litres/US gall x 0.72 exchange rate = $3.42/US gall.

Just as well our gallons are bigger than yours (except in TX, probably!). That must help somehow? Oh yeah, it makes our fuel tanks smaller.

Yeah, but we don't have cool accents and funny names for everything like you guys

[LSJUNIPER]

http://pure-gas.org/

[Steve_Mack_CT]

No doubt ethanol is a cause of many problems with older engines of all types. Maybe I have been lucky but generally find that a model A in good tune isn't too bothered by today's junk gas. I am not criticizing but wanted to share some findings from research I did as I attribute some serious issues I had with another prewar engine, packard 8, to junk gas. Racing fuel is also usually very high octane which can be a problem. Lowest no ethanol choice in CT,for example is 94 - it is all racing fuel (reason it cost pgerhardt so much $$).

Long story short, one popular misconception is that high octane gas must be good for our cars, after all it is the most expensive, right? Well octane has one purpose, anti knock, which is accomplished in simple terms by retarding combustion. Very effective say on sixties muscle cars or todays high compression cars, not so good for prewar cars. High octane will exacerbate problems with a marginal ignition system, for example, defeating the purpose of buying the high grade gas. I only mention because I spent some time researching the issue. No ethanol is great but knowing this might help others diagnose possible issues with rough running or hard starting down the road. One could potentially trade one problem for another which is all I wanted to raise.

Will add stabil as well but I actually look for the lowest octane in my prewar cars. It is unfortunate but I think one needs to be in a more rural state to get ethanol free gas in lower octane form for older equipment, etc. used in farming or maybe marine use.

[C26Pinelake]

Just the Seafoam will be adequate. Wayne

[tiger.1000]

You guys still complaining about the price of petrol ? Equivalent of US$9.25 a gallon here in the UK !

[pgerhardt]

To be clear I an not advocating running $10/gallon SUNOCO racing fuel in your model A. My tudor seems to run fine on pump gas. But winter storage is another matter. I don't want to drain the tank and leave it empty. An empty fuel tank invites the condensing of water on the inside surface of the tank and rust. I want a full fuel tank over the winter, but not full with ethanol laced fuel that absorbs moisture and attacks seals and gaskets.

I am also going to use it in my generator which can go many months between use.

[katy]

You guys still complaining about the price of petrol ? Equivalent of US$9.25 a gallon here in the UK !

Here in Alberta it works out to US$5.30 per US gallon.

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Pgerhardt, seems like a good strategy, too bad that you had no cheaper alternative without the ethanol.

Trying to push driving season till the roads get ugly and then I will face the same dilemma. I prefer a full tank as well.

[1931 flamingo]

spdway1; Why not?? None of them are going to harm anything. JMO


Paul