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Old 12-06-2019, 09:01 AM   #1
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Does anybody make a high quality US-made U joint ? Are 1928 -1948 U joints interchangeable ? Not impressed with a foreign-made unit I have. Spline bores appear to be off center and there is perceptible axial play.
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Old 12-06-2019, 09:08 AM   #2
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Call up Berts and see if he has a good used one. That's the route I went after he told me the rebuild kits are poor quality. The one he sent me looked and felt almost brand new.


Alternatively, Bob Drake makes a modern replacement that uses needle bearings. Have read mixed reviews on it.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:54 AM   #3
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The 28-48 U joints are interchangeable I believe. that is the ones where you can replace the wear parts.
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Old 12-06-2019, 12:56 PM   #4
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I checked five, some NOS, and all have about 1/16" axial play.
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I think the one with the needles is a copy of the Lincoln U-joint.
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https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=HB-7090

Looking hard at the Bob Drake option. Since the needle bearings are sealed the unit would probably not benefit from filling the U joint enclosure with mega grease. Quality looks good but do not know if US-manufactured. Anybody have any experience or info on this unit ?
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Does anybody make a high quality US-made U joint ? Are 1928 -1948 U joints interchangeable ? Not impressed with a foreign-made unit I have. Spline bores appear to be off center and there is perceptible axial play.
Not trying to pick a fight here but just because something is US made doesn't mean it's high quality and just because something is "foriegn" made doesn't mean it is not.
The US has about 5% of the world's population. That means that to 95% of people, US made is "foreign made".
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Call them...................
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:53 PM   #9
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Not trying to pick a fight here but just because something is US made doesn't mean it's high quality and just because something is "foriegn" made doesn't mean it is not.
The US has about 5% of the world's population. That means that to 95% of people, US made is "foreign made".
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:14 PM   #10
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There was some discussion of the needle-bearing U-joints on the Early V8 Forum a while back and the consensus seemed to be that this type of bearing was unnecessary in an application where there was no full rotation around an axis. These were used in some Lincolns of that era and many assumed that made them better than the Ford supplied bushing U-joints, but actual use showed no advantage.
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Not trying to pick a fight here but just because something is US made doesn't mean it's high quality and just because something is "foriegn" made doesn't mean it is not.
The US has about 5% of the world's population. That means that to 95% of people, US made is "foreign made".

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https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=HB-7090

Looking hard at the Bob Drake option. Since the needle bearings are sealed the unit would probably not benefit from filling the U joint enclosure with mega grease. Quality looks good but do not know if US-manufactured. Anybody have any experience or info on this unit ?

There has NOT been much (if any) good to say about Bob's repro Lincoln joint....do a search re: "Bob Drake U-joints". Contact Fred Wilmer at Southside Obsolete for REAL Ford NOS joints. Send Fred a PM...he goes by "barnfind08" here on the 'Barn. DD
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:38 AM   #13
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There has NOT been much (if any) good to say about Bob's repro Lincoln joint....do a search re: "Bob Drake U-joints". Contact Fred Wilmer at Southside Obsolete for REAL Ford NOS joints. Send Fred a PM...he goes by "barnfind08" here on the 'Barn. DD
Did some research and agree. Needle bearings appear to be not the way to go on torque tube drive lines. Since the shafts are restrained they must be in perfect alignment to avoid side loads on the joint. The bushing type joints readily accommodate minor lateral misalignment. Many antique Lincoln owners report they retrofit their rides with bushed joints because they last much longer. Appreciate the input and recommendation. NOS is clearly the best route to go.
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Old 12-07-2019, 10:17 PM   #14
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Did some research and agree. Needle bearings appear to be not the way to go on torque tube drive lines. Since the shafts are restrained they must be in perfect alignment to avoid side loads on the joint. The bushing type joints readily accommodate minor lateral misalignment. Many antique Lincoln owners report they retrofit their rides with bushed joints because they last much longer. Appreciate the input and recommendation. NOS is clearly the best route to go.
This isn't true at all. Drake u-joints don't work well on A's because of the angles, which are different than the longer V8 drive shafts.

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Recently there U-joints on the market supplied by your favorite supplier that were too wide to properly fit inside the U-joint housing. Most of the better suppliers pulled them from their inventory when they were advised of the problem. Other suppliers didn't. So beware!

Out here in California serviceable original U-joints are seen all the time at swap meets for next to nothing.

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Recently there U-joints on the market supplied by your favorite supplier that were too wide to properly fit inside the U-joint housing. Most of the better suppliers pulled them from their inventory when they were advised of the problem. Other suppliers didn't. So beware!

Out here in California serviceable original U-joints are seen all the time at swap meets for next to nothing.

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So it's a very different scene from here. A serviceable uni joint is pretty rare.
As I've said before, you guys don't know how good you've got it.
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