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Old 07-29-2016, 08:20 PM   #1
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Default Early 28 center bumper emblem

I have been watching an auction on eBay for a supposedly NOS early 28 center bumper emblem. The seller ended it today at about $71 and relisted it as a "Buy It Now" for $250 - WOW! After looking at it carefully, I believe it is an early repro. The emblem looks nice, but I don't believe it is a Ford made emblem. The threads are too long, the nut is to small across the flats (mine is 9/16"), the backing plate appear to be a little too long and the back of the emblem doesn't look as rounded like my three original emblems. I am posting some pictures of one of my emblems below. The link to the eBay listing is below. Any opinions?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112076424135...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: Early 28 center bumper emblem

Interesting.. I don't like the edges that much.. Here are some pics also to look at. Love to discuss more
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:58 AM   #3
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Default Re: Early 28 center bumper emblem

The ebay one looks more like the one Mark posted. I'd question the NOS. The back clamp looks like it's had a washer against it.
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:15 AM   #4
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It will be interesting to see if is sell for anything close to $250 - I doubt it. Early bumper emblems are rare, but not $250 rare in my opinion. Why is it painted black instead of Ford blue like all the other emblems I have seen? It can't be a Canadian emblem, as it doesn't have Made In Canada on it, which may have been painted black but Ford.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:26 AM   #5
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Rusty, remember the clamp was a carry over from the model T as I understand. The clamp appears to be NOS. Jim
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:35 AM   #6
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Jim,
Were the model T emblems painted black? Maybe they were.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:41 AM   #7
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Default Re: Early 28 center bumper emblem

I believe the original clamp was 3 separate pieces:
* body = black paint (pressed vs.cast?)
* bolt = black paint
* face = plated & black (early) or blue (later) paint; crimped onto body

I don’t have the early (‘made in USA’) drawing but assume it to be similar.

Sorry, dont recall my source of the 'opened' clamp so i cant give proper credit where due.

BTW: Would like a copy of earliest style drawing
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:06 AM   #8
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I have a NOS Clamp on my A1276, it is painted Black in the center. By the time the January 1, 1928 " Dealers Parts Price List" was issued it does not say "same as T part number" as the new clamp was painted Blue in the center, so the T clamps with Black center must have been used up ?

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My NOS Center Bumper Clamp came from my Uncle's barn in Stockton, CA; in 1933 my uncle bought all the parts, bins, etc., from the Ford Dealership in Sonora, CA when the dealership went out of business; he hauled everything to his ranch in Stockton using his 1929 AA Truck, which he bought new in Stockton. You just can not believe the things that cam out of that dealership, such as new T tops complete, T brass radiators, running board shields T and A,
new Quail radiator caps, 28-29 hood sills, Lincoln Polish, new late 31 owners manuals, etc. This was in the early 60's, I only had a 31 Deluxe Coupe at that time and not into the very early A's . My uncle told me to take anything I wanted, I told him I only wanted thing I could use on my coupe. I did finally take the early T center bumper clamp never realizing I would have a need for it many years later.

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Old 07-30-2016, 03:42 PM   #9
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If you look at the picture i posted you will see that they match the drawing in post #7 Rusty..

I do believe the ebay Auction is NOS and correct. BUT 250.00???
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:12 PM   #10
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:13 PM   #11
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Looking at the script font it is nothing like Charles example. The script is closer to the later drawing without the made in usa. the back does not appear to be crimped like the drawing.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:34 PM   #13
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Please look at my post; I edited it with some information you may find interesting?

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Old 07-30-2016, 10:50 PM   #14
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Default Re: Early 28 center bumper emblem

i found an early 28 MADE IN USA bumper clamp a few years back, It was pretty beat up so i sent it to a metal worker to get restored. I got a call back from him and said it was made of stainless steel but it WAS made from the original Dies. It is not a early or cheap reproduction. it cleaned up really good and is on my 28 AA
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:54 PM   #15
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Default Re: Early 28 center bumper emblem

Not to sidetrack the thread, but need one of these for CA 67, if anyone has a spare.
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If you look at the picture i posted you will see that they match the drawing in post #7 Rusty..

I do believe the ebay Auction is NOS and correct. BUT 250.00???
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Mark your emblem has no detail "sharpness" to the script?
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:04 AM   #18
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Here's a few pics of a clamp I got from Doc
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:06 AM   #19
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One at a time from phone...
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:09 AM   #20
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Be nice to load more than one at a time
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