Brake parts identification and puller info Q..

[MuskegonFlatheadFan]

Heres a couple of links to help in your ID:
http://www.flatheadv8.org/fordrear.htm
http://www.hotrodworks.com/project_v...@carid=39.html
http://www.hotrodworks.com/project_v...@carid=40.html

[hardtimes]

Thanks Charlie,
Good suggestions!
Remember from my first post, the previous owner is the person who convinced me that this '36 five window coupe....was the perfect stock driver, "with no issues". I left him a lengthy email , requesting he call me to discuss this car and it's condition. He has not the courtesy (read: intestinal fortitude/whatever) to reply. I'll make it work eventually, even if I have to do major surgery. If it were a Model A, I wouldn't have to ask, but this is first flathead V8 model in close to fifty years. Thanks again for your input, as it's valued.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by MuskegonFlatheadFan

Heres a couple of links to help in your ID:
http://www.flatheadv8.org/fordrear.htm
http://www.hotrodworks.com/project_v...@carid=39.html
http://www.hotrodworks.com/project_v...@carid=40.html

Wow! That's what I'm looking for Thanks much! Definitely NOT a '36! I will do the reading/research from your help and ID this unit. I'll let you know what I find.

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Wow! That's what I'm looking for Thanks much! Definitely NOT a '36! I will do the reading/research from your help and ID this unit. I'll let you know what I find.

Now is the time for some serious soul searching. Are you better off fixing whatever is in there or looking for the correct '36 rear end? Sorry but I don't know the correct answer. A lot depends on how bad a job was done in modifying the rear end that is in there.

Charlie Stephens

[hardtimes]

Charlie,
Hm, that's my position. I've decided to get what brakes that I have 'fixed'...for now , then move on to other problem areas and develop a long term plan as I get it ready to drive. As I haven't even gotten to take it for a ride yet..that's my short term goal.
I want to share some pictures of AMERICAN made wheel cylinder with copper parts in pistons..that I've never encountered priorly. This Wagner/Lockheed cylinder is obviously made with pride and best materials/design. For example, the shoe 'notch' in the copper portion of piston fits the shoe precisely. Whereas the pistons in the other three wheel cylinders have a shoe 'notch' TWICE as wide as shoe material...resulting in a SLOPPY fit...allowing the shoe to move excessively. Plus the copper piston notch is twice as deep of the 3 other cyls pistons notches. Plus NO RUST !
Anyone ever see/know of the use of copper in whl cyl pistons?

Also posting a picture of rear backplate with a BROKEN shoe holder attachment. Anyone know if there is a 'fix' for this broken part...or if it can be used without this shoe holder? Note that this broken part is swedged/peened to the drum.

[MuskegonFlatheadFan]

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Mac's has the clips for the shoes too. Sorry but I've never had to replace them. There must be some kind of metal fingers that you would need to bend up. I would certainly replace them.
http://macsautoparts.com/early-v8-fo...0R3CHL1113103/

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by MuskegonFlatheadFan

Mac's has the clips for the shoes too. Sorry but I've never had to replace them. There must be some kind of metal fingers that you would need to bend up. I would certainly replace them.
http://macsautoparts.com/early-v8-fo...0R3CHL1113103/

Thanks !
I'm adding two pics of broken clip , next to a good clip, so that you can see exactly what I'm asking regarding repair or what? This shoe clip that's broken ....would have to be ground out/punched out. The question is..is there a replacement part available

The 'backside' of backplate shows the swedged/stamped situation. But, from your response...I may have an idea for a suitable repair!

[hardtimes]

I see that others are in the process of doing similar task as I'm currently involved in, i.e.- redoing '39/'41 brake system.
While in examining/fixing process, I've come up with an improvement (IMHO)in the adjusting process of this brake system. I know that it will help me and hope to share 'TIP' with others to mabe ease their brake adjusting process. Ford put a small 'punch' mark on the end of the two anchor adjuster bolts. Well , I enlarged these punch marks and painted them white..now even I can see where I'm going (from start point) with anchor adjments. Then I realized that the same same needed to be done with the upper shoe adjusters. So , I filed a mark on the head of each of these bolts and painted them white also. Now it is easy to see/remember not only which way going, but also where I started each adj from!
BTW- each of the four adjustment bolts are shown in the backing plate picture....in the starting position...that is shoe is adjusted IN as far as it will go to start out. Hope this makes sense and helps someone else.

[MuskegonFlatheadFan]

Thats a good idea. Did you remove the shoe clips yet?

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by MuskegonFlatheadFan

Thats a good idea. Did you remove the shoe clips yet?

Your idea of a clip from supplier was good! I used such clip and it is going to work excellent. The 'newer' clip , i.e.- later '4os that you suggested, slips right under what's left of the old '39 anchor point and is solid!! Thanks for suggestion.