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Stretch Cab · 06-18-2018, 03:31 PM

I’m at my shop in NC with a couple days to work on my 36 Deluxe Fordor. I have the motor and transmission disconnected from the drive shaft. At least I think I do. Will the motor and trans slide forward and then the transmission will drop down to allow me to remove the motor/transmission together ? I don’t want to damage anything.

Mart · 06-18-2018, 04:17 PM

You'll have to take the handbrake lever off. It might be worth taking the top off the transmission too, if you're struggling for clearance with the firewall. (Assuming you've taken the lever out). Cover the trans with a clean cloth if you take the top off.

Just start removing it and keep taking things off if they're in the way.

Do you have the radiator and grille out of the way?

Mart.

Stretch Cab · 06-18-2018, 04:25 PM

Hand brake is off but shifter is still attached. Whole front of car is off so no issues there.

1931 flamingo · 06-18-2018, 04:59 PM

Take the "clam shell" off also.
Paul in CT

V8COOPMAN · 06-18-2018, 05:08 PM

If it is as we see in your picture, you need to do a couple of additional steps. You need to remove those two stamped, bell-shaped pieces (top and bottom). They are held together by the two fasteners seen in the picture with a screwdriver slot, one on either side, left and right. Once you remove those pieces, you will see the U-joint. With those two clamshell pieces removed, the engine/trans/U-joint should now slide forward and OFF of the drive shaft. DD

Stretch Cab · 06-18-2018, 07:00 PM

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Got the two covers off and see a round bell shaped part. I don’t see what I would call a U-joint. All exterior brackets are loose.

1931flathead · 06-18-2018, 07:04 PM

The u-joint is under the round part should be able to slide the motor and transmission ahead if you have the shift off

Stretch Cab · 06-18-2018, 07:26 PM

Ok. Does the shifter come out if I disconnect the top bolts and lift up? And while I have such great help, how do the brake and clutch pedals come off so I can get the floor board out?

drolston · 06-18-2018, 08:37 PM

Brake and clutch pedal pads unscrew from the levers; might take a big pipe wrench. Just hand tighten when you put them back on.

You will need to tilt the engine up and transmission down on the way out; to do that you need a leveler on your hoist. About $30 at Pep Boys. Advise draining the engine and transmission oil first.

Tinker · 06-18-2018, 08:56 PM

You can remove just the shifter. Watch the shifter locating pin. Pull that sucker out already!

deuce lover · 06-19-2018, 03:47 AM

Don't forget the stay rods into the block from the frame x member'

Stretch Cab · 06-19-2018, 06:52 AM

Heading down to the shop in a little bit to get started. Two grandsons will be helping so it will be a good day. Thanks for the help. I’m sure I will have more questions.

Stretch Cab · 06-19-2018, 12:03 PM

Got the motor out with no problems. Should have taken the headers out and not just loose to give more room. Thanks for all the advice.

Tinker · 06-19-2018, 09:23 PM

Nice work! Air cleaner and all!

ford nut · 06-20-2018, 01:58 AM

yeah! is he wearing flip-flops?

Stretch Cab · 06-20-2018, 06:35 AM

Yes I don’t think flip flops were a good choice but it was good to have my grandson help

19Fordy · 06-20-2018, 08:07 AM

Hope you are taking photos of each step and how parts fit for reassembly.
Nice job.

Stretch Cab · 06-20-2018, 11:30 AM

Yes lots of pictures is the only way I will ever get it back together. This is a long term project so I’m sure my memory won’t work that long.

06-18-2018, 04:17 PM	#2
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,745	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence You'll have to take the handbrake lever off. It might be worth taking the top off the transmission too, if you're struggling for clearance with the firewall. (Assuming you've taken the lever out). Cover the trans with a clean cloth if you take the top off. Just start removing it and keep taking things off if they're in the way. Do you have the radiator and grille out of the way? Mart.

06-18-2018, 04:25 PM	#3
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Hand brake is off but shifter is still attached. Whole front of car is off so no issues there.

06-18-2018, 04:59 PM	#4
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Take the "clam shell" off also. Paul in CT

06-18-2018, 05:08 PM	#5
V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,106	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence If it is as we see in your picture, you need to do a couple of additional steps. You need to remove those two stamped, bell-shaped pieces (top and bottom). They are held together by the two fasteners seen in the picture with a screwdriver slot, one on either side, left and right. Once you remove those pieces, you will see the U-joint. With those two clamshell pieces removed, the engine/trans/U-joint should now slide forward and OFF of the drive shaft. DD __________________ *Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

06-18-2018, 07:00 PM	#6
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Got the two covers off and see a round bell shaped part. I don’t see what I would call a U-joint. All exterior brackets are loose.

06-18-2018, 07:04 PM	#7
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence The u-joint is under the round part should be able to slide the motor and transmission ahead if you have the shift off

06-18-2018, 07:26 PM	#8
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Ok. Does the shifter come out if I disconnect the top bolts and lift up? And while I have such great help, how do the brake and clutch pedals come off so I can get the floor board out?

06-18-2018, 08:37 PM	#9
drolston Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,627	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Brake and clutch pedal pads unscrew from the levers; might take a big pipe wrench. Just hand tighten when you put them back on. You will need to tilt the engine up and transmission down on the way out; to do that you need a leveler on your hoist. About $30 at Pep Boys. Advise draining the engine and transmission oil first.

06-18-2018, 08:56 PM	#10
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence You can remove just the shifter. Watch the shifter locating pin. Pull that sucker out already!

06-19-2018, 03:47 AM	#11
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,301	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Don't forget the stay rods into the block from the frame x member'

06-19-2018, 06:52 AM	#12
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Heading down to the shop in a little bit to get started. Two grandsons will be helping so it will be a good day. Thanks for the help. I’m sure I will have more questions.

06-19-2018, 09:23 PM	#14
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Nice work! Air cleaner and all!

06-20-2018, 01:58 AM	#15
ford nut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: rosemead ca. Posts: 574	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence yeah! is he wearing flip-flops?

06-20-2018, 06:35 AM	#16
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Yes I don’t think flip flops were a good choice but it was good to have my grandson help

06-20-2018, 08:07 AM	#17
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,923	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Hope you are taking photos of each step and how parts fit for reassembly. Nice job.

06-20-2018, 11:30 AM	#18
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Flathead removal proper sequence Yes lots of pictures is the only way I will ever get it back together. This is a long term project so I’m sure my memory won’t work that long.