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Old 04-22-2018, 06:55 PM   #1
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Default Anti-Seize Compound Payback Years later

Removed water pumps today as they need rebuilding. Thank goodness for bronze bolts and anti-seize compound.
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Old 04-22-2018, 06:59 PM   #2
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I used stainless, with anti-seize. Where can you get bronze bolts.
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Old 04-23-2018, 05:44 AM   #4
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A great point, everything that I bolt back together gets a dab of anti-seize on the threads.

I use Loctite C5-A copper base anti-seize, I do not use as much on the Model T as it lubes itself
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Thanks for the reminder. That hidden bolt in the water pump has caused a lot of head scratching over the years. I think that Henry chuckled when he came up with that idea.
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Thanks for the reminder. That hidden bolt in the water pump has caused a lot of head scratching over the years. I think that Henry chuckled when he came up with that idea.
What I do is remove all bolts. Put my ratchet on the hidden bolt and tap the
water pump 'lead hammer' in the direction with tension on the ratchet.
Have not broken one yet.
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I put anti-seize on EVERYTHING short of a pizza. I'm glad to see it works as intended even decades later!
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:48 AM   #8
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Yeah, buddy. I think my bottle of copper anti-seize is going on twenty years. Love that stuff. Like others have said, a little dab will do you.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:35 AM   #9
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Bronze bolt info is here: You could probably use them on exhaust headers also as you can also get them in socket head cap screws.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=buD....0.sZ8543VpjJ8
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I put anti-seize on EVERYTHING short of a pizza. I'm glad to see it works as intended even decades later!

You do know there's food grade anti seize for that?

(No lie. Don't think I would eat it though, its really slimy.)
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Im not familiar with anti-sieze or bronze bolts, could you explain the purpose and the advantage?
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Im not familiar with anti-sieze or bronze bolts, could you explain the purpose and the advantage?
Anti-seize is like a grease compound mixed with either a copper or aluminum powder it help control rust and the powder acts like little ball bearings in your threads, make removal of bolts,nuts easier down the road. Bronze also won't rust together with the steel making removal easier.
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Ok makes sense so do you use them on everything like body panels or just engine components?
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Marine grade anti-seize has nickel powder in it instead of copper. Pete
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:42 PM   #15
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F2: Bronze bolts are expensive so I used them only on bolts that you rarely remove and have a high tendency to literally corrode and seize to the adjoining metal, like exhaust headers and the infamous hidden water pump bolts.

Also use stainless plus anti seize to prevent galling. Keep in mind bronze and stainless may not have the torque strength required compared to "graded" steel hex bolts.
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I put anti-seize on EVERYTHING short of a pizza. I'm glad to see it works as intended even decades later!
Might be better then anchovies....

when in doubt, anti-seize.
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I also believe when using anti-seize torque settings have to be modified.
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:25 PM   #18
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There are some bolts/nuts/studs that have very specific torque values then require them to be torqued dry (as in NO lubricant). Anti-seize is great for most applications, I use it a lot. Just be aware it is not suitable for every application.
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F2: Bronze bolts are expensive so I used them only on bolts that you rarely remove and have a high tendency to literally corrode and seize to the adjoining metal, like exhaust headers and the infamous hidden water pump bolts.

Also use stainless plus anti seize to prevent galling. Keep in mind bronze and stainless may not have the torque strength required compared to "graded" steel hex bolts.
Both SS and Silicone Bronze bolt...Use Grade 2 torque specs as the "UPPER LIMIT" of your torque values!!!! For SS bolt......IF you are so inclined.....Use High Nickel Anti Seize which in "some" applications is better than standard Anti-Seize BUT by and large the 'standard" anti-seize is just fine for what we as car restorer do, IF you need Silicone Bronze bolts and are having trouble finding anyone in your area that stocks them....PM me I have them in stock!!! As well as BOTH grades of Stainless Steel
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Some might find this interesting. It is recommended that torque values be reduced 25%.

http://www.antiseize.com/PDFs/torque_specifications.pdf

http://www.unlimited-usa.com/ftpgetfile.php?id=29
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