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AnthonyG · 08-22-2018, 03:12 PM

Got a ‘40 pickup that’s modified. Believe chassis to be 1948-1956? chassis numbers hidden with brake lines & junction block too much in front of them to see. Has front dropped I front with leaf spring pads on & leafs right & left. 4 vertical cross mem’s. @ Front bumper behind tranny, approx 2’ front of rear & extreme rear where rear bumper attaches. Would like to figur year or at least confirm it’s an F1 chassis. Sorry pics a little rough.

RalphM · 08-22-2018, 03:19 PM

No pictures

skidmarks · 08-22-2018, 03:28 PM

Does it have tube shocks or lever action. The 42 to 47 frame is pretty much the same as a 48 to 52 with the exception of cross steer and lever shocks

Could be a 42 to 47 pu with a 40 41 nose. But to make it look right the cab has to be channeled or dropped. Most of the time it looks like a total disaster

AnthonyG · 08-22-2018, 03:35 PM

Tube shocks with parallel leafs right / left. Sorry about pics, site tells me I’m missing security token??

Charlie Stephens · 08-22-2018, 04:09 PM

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Tube shocks with parallel leafs right / left. Sorry about pics, site tells me I’m missing security token??

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JSeery · 08-22-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyG

Got a ‘40 pickup that’s modified. Believe chassis to be 1948-1956? chassis numbers hidden with brake lines & junction block too much in front of them to see. Has front dropped I front with leaf spring pads on & leafs right & left. 4 vertical cross mem’s. @ Front bumper behind tranny, approx 2’ front of rear & extreme rear where rear bumper attaches. Would like to figur year or at least confirm it’s an F1 chassis. Sorry pics a little rough.

How is it titled/registered? Is the serial number on the paperwork?

JSeery · 08-22-2018, 04:21 PM

The 40 and 41 frames/chassis would have a transverse rear spring. So it would have to be later if it is an original type of chassis.

Bob C · 08-22-2018, 04:28 PM

These are from Vanpelt.

AnthonyG · 08-22-2018, 05:56 PM

I knew it wasn’t a ‘40 or ‘41 chassis. Looks like it could be either a ‘42-‘47 or ‘48-‘51 both R very similar. I think rather than cut the stock ‘40 Chassis to fit the modern V8 & Auto Trans he changed chassis’s. Thx guys, that gets me close enough.

skidmarks · 08-22-2018, 06:25 PM

I saw your other post with pictures. The tail gate looks like the 42 to 52 tailgate. The outer edges were the raised panels are, thats the give away. The lack of the fuel fill pipe is another clue. Look inside the cab on the passanger side and see if it had a fill pipe hole

rich b · 08-22-2018, 08:54 PM

Unless they switched the steering and brakes; F-1 would be side steer with Bendix brakes, while the earlier chassis would be cross steer with Lockheed brakes.

AnthonyG · 08-22-2018, 09:10 PM

Based on Vanpelt drwg’s frame’s definitely ‘42-‘47 matched up exactly. No welded patch on cab so believe it’s a ‘40 or ‘41 cab. Front clip is ‘40 as well with a ‘41 hood. As said previously it is modified & has what looks like a Chromed speedway front dropped I-beam for F-1 w disc brakes. I think the rear is from old Camaro or firebird w leafs. Bit of a Frankenstein but love it! Very pretty Frankenstien

Tinker · 08-22-2018, 09:18 PM

Post up some pictures?

Mart · 08-23-2018, 01:47 AM

Pics are in this thread:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249754

AnthonyG · 08-23-2018, 07:03 AM

Sorry about quality of pics. Gotta an appt. can’t get under it & get dirty now

V8COOPMAN · 08-23-2018, 08:23 AM

That rusted-chrome, steering "thing-a-ma-jiggy" sure is spooky looking. The neat part of it all is that the NEW OWNER is happy with it. DD

AnthonyG · 08-23-2018, 05:05 PM

DD definitely gotta talk to Speedway for better steering link. While it looks shaky its very solid and works, agreed steering thing-a-ma-jiggy is ughly! All the front suspension looks like chromed Speedway stuff so now that chassis is ID’ed will see what’s better & available. Their chomed suspension pieces didn’t hold up well in the previous owners garage while stored 4 23 yrs & wouldn’t have been my choice. Will clean up & do black.

skidmarks · 08-23-2018, 05:12 PM

What kind of steering box is it?

AnthonyG · 08-23-2018, 05:30 PM

As rich b indicated It looks like it was an early F1side steer originally. The holes still in the frame but the builder installed a power stering box mounted forward on chassis as seen from below in pic.

skidmarks · 08-23-2018, 06:24 PM

Thats what i ment, was what kind of steering box is in it currently? Its weird the drag link hooks to the left spindle and its cross steer? Unless i am seeing it from the opposite direction.

If it had a factory hole on the left frame rail for a drag link(front to back) then the frame is a 48 to 52

08-22-2018, 03:12 PM	#1
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Indentify chassis? Got a ‘40 pickup that’s modified. Believe chassis to be 1948-1956? chassis numbers hidden with brake lines & junction block too much in front of them to see. Has front dropped I front with leaf spring pads on & leafs right & left. 4 vertical cross mem’s. @ Front bumper behind tranny, approx 2’ front of rear & extreme rear where rear bumper attaches. Would like to figur year or at least confirm it’s an F1 chassis. Sorry pics a little rough. __________________ Nomad Last edited by AnthonyG; 08-22-2018 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Forgot pics

08-22-2018, 03:19 PM	#2
RalphM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 2,651	Re: Indentify chassis? No pictures

08-22-2018, 03:28 PM	#3
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Indentify chassis? Does it have tube shocks or lever action. The 42 to 47 frame is pretty much the same as a 48 to 52 with the exception of cross steer and lever shocks Could be a 42 to 47 pu with a 40 41 nose. But to make it look right the cab has to be channeled or dropped. Most of the time it looks like a total disaster

08-22-2018, 03:35 PM	#4
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Re: Indentify chassis? Tube shocks with parallel leafs right / left. Sorry about pics, site tells me I’m missing security token?? __________________ Nomad

08-22-2018, 05:56 PM	#9
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Re: Indentify chassis? I knew it wasn’t a ‘40 or ‘41 chassis. Looks like it could be either a ‘42-‘47 or ‘48-‘51 both R very similar. I think rather than cut the stock ‘40 Chassis to fit the modern V8 & Auto Trans he changed chassis’s. Thx guys, that gets me close enough. __________________ Nomad

08-22-2018, 06:25 PM	#10
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Indentify chassis? I saw your other post with pictures. The tail gate looks like the 42 to 52 tailgate. The outer edges were the raised panels are, thats the give away. The lack of the fuel fill pipe is another clue. Look inside the cab on the passanger side and see if it had a fill pipe hole

08-22-2018, 08:54 PM	#11
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,825	Re: Indentify chassis? Unless they switched the steering and brakes; F-1 would be side steer with Bendix brakes, while the earlier chassis would be cross steer with Lockheed brakes.

08-22-2018, 09:10 PM	#12
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Re: Indentify chassis? Based on Vanpelt drwg’s frame’s definitely ‘42-‘47 matched up exactly. No welded patch on cab so believe it’s a ‘40 or ‘41 cab. Front clip is ‘40 as well with a ‘41 hood. As said previously it is modified & has what looks like a Chromed speedway front dropped I-beam for F-1 w disc brakes. I think the rear is from old Camaro or firebird w leafs. Bit of a Frankenstein but love it! Very pretty Frankenstien __________________ Nomad

08-22-2018, 09:18 PM	#13
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Indentify chassis? Post up some pictures?

08-23-2018, 01:47 AM	#14
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,744	Re: Indentify chassis? Pics are in this thread: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249754

08-23-2018, 08:23 AM	#16
V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,106	Re: Indentify chassis? That rusted-chrome, steering "thing-a-ma-jiggy" sure is spooky looking. The neat part of it all is that the NEW OWNER is happy with it. DD __________________ *Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

08-23-2018, 05:05 PM	#17
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Re: Indentify chassis? DD definitely gotta talk to Speedway for better steering link. While it looks shaky its very solid and works, agreed steering thing-a-ma-jiggy is ughly! All the front suspension looks like chromed Speedway stuff so now that chassis is ID’ed will see what’s better & available. Their chomed suspension pieces didn’t hold up well in the previous owners garage while stored 4 23 yrs & wouldn’t have been my choice. Will clean up & do black. __________________ Nomad

08-23-2018, 05:12 PM	#18
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Indentify chassis? What kind of steering box is it?

08-23-2018, 05:30 PM	#19
AnthonyG Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pa. Posts: 2,163	Re: Indentify chassis? As rich b indicated It looks like it was an early F1side steer originally. The holes still in the frame but the builder installed a power stering box mounted forward on chassis as seen from below in pic. __________________ Nomad

08-23-2018, 06:24 PM	#20
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: Indentify chassis? Thats what i ment, was what kind of steering box is in it currently? Its weird the drag link hooks to the left spindle and its cross steer? Unless i am seeing it from the opposite direction. If it had a factory hole on the left frame rail for a drag link(front to back) then the frame is a 48 to 52