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Old 08-13-2017, 10:41 AM   #41
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Line of communication? No clue. But again I don't see it as an issue.


Those asking questions about the process because they are interested in stepping up and hosting should contact the respective member of the National Board. You'll be amazed at how much satisfaction you will get out of it.

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Amazing Tim how people don't see that. ,Its great and fun and there have been only 2 meets that have not made money......pretty good record as i see, its easy to get together and FORM A region to host..that is what people do now and it works...Gettysburg was done by 6 persons....honestly 6 persons... Al you have to do is step up and stop complaining and do it!!
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:43 PM   #42
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OK I WILL TAKE THE WHOLE BLAME!! It was me who arranged the dates for Branson. I am the Chairman of the meet and I did it. Now let me explain why. I too have many friends in the West in MAFCA and see them at our close by MARC meets and they have been my friends for over 30 years.
Here's what happened. There was no meet scheduled for 2018 and driving home from the 2016 MARC Toledo meet my young friend Jan Van Niekirk and I said we should host a National Meet for 2018 in Kansas City. Nice city, lots of great attractions and right in the center of the country. Jan (21) suggested as nice as it would be to have one in Kansas City it would be even better if we could do one in Branson. That city being the entertainment center of the midwest. I agreed that Branson would be great and on the way home we even thought of rhyming words to Branson and came up with A Danicin in Branson in 2018. Our pick of hotels in Branson was the Hilton and adjoining convention center for all our activities BUT the rate was $169 and for our membership that would be really hard. We found the Radisson Hotel with 470+ rooms and asked to see if we could get a block in June of 2018. 24 June - 1July was it until mid August and in August weather is usually pretty gnarly in the midwest. OR we could wait until 2019 and get the 3rd week of June which is rather a traditional week for MARC meets. We did consider the conflict but most MARC members are east of the Mississippi and since the MAFCA meet was in Reno we felt that the membership would most likely not head to the west coast. Traditionally MARC has always had their meets in June and MAFCA has had theirs in July-August with very few exceptions. YES MAFCA did book that week before MARC and it is unfortunate that the two meets conflict but it was a matter of not waiting another year as 2018 was begging for a location so we stepped on our MAFCA friends toes and although I deeply regret the conflict I made the decision to go ahead as they were 2000 miles apart. Branson has so so much to offer and as this was a formed club to host this national meet we are excited that the host hotel is already booked and we are thinking that we will top 600 registrants from this favorable early response. I will miss my friends from Cali as well as Sammy from Az and I deeply regret that these two meets collided but it just worked out that way and I am sorry but I think both meets will do well.
On a different note if this is a good destination for our club and at this early date we might be willing to do it again in 2021 and that is an off year for MAFCA and so we could all get together for that meet with no conflicts.
I just made arrangements for the swap meet spot half a block from the host hotel on the grass in the rough of the golf course next door and so we will be trying to attract 100 vendors or more to make this one of the best swap meets ever. As those who know me know I am a swap meet vendor and so I have a special place in my heart for the vendors and we will cater to their needs and also have a cookout planned in the swap meet on Thursday night hosted by the swap meet vendors for the attendees in memory of Doc Kalinka who had a brat fry on Thursday evening in the swap meet and we want to carry this tradition forward. So the swap meet will be virtually closed on Thursday during the Grand Tour and then open at 5PM for the cookout and run until the last dog dies later in the evening. So dogs and hamburgers, chips, soda, and ice cream on Thursday night to mix things up a little from previous MARC meets. If you have a lot of Model A parts contact me for info on the swap meet which will be open from Sunday through Friday.
I truly am disappointed that our down under friends won't be able to attend both meets and it was not anyone's intent to leave anyone out. I have a lot of customer/friends from both countries and would love to have made a connection with all of them again.
We are running the MARC meet two days longer that normal to give our attendees a chance to see additional shows and get out to some of the activities outside our MARC events so it will run from Sunday to Sunday so we can have some folks attend both if they can arrange to come on Thursday for 4 days.
Again I apologize for the conflict and I would be open to discussing another meet in 2021 but would want some more help. There are 5 of us so far in the Branson region so if the membership likes Branson we can do it again in three years and not conflict with the MAFCA meet.
I love you all MARC and MAFCA and you truly are my dearest friends and I look forward every year to old home week and will miss those I usually see from the west. I will see you in Hersey though this next fall. I welcome any comments or help. 816-213-8437
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Old 08-23-2017, 06:06 PM   #43
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If the national clubs merged, what would you call it? MARFCA??

That sounds like that contagious disease super-bug you pick up from layin' in the hospital too long.

Best keep things as they are
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If the national clubs merged, what would you call it? MARFCA??

That sounds like that contagious disease super-bug you pick up from layin' in the hospital too long.

Best keep things as they are
Not to worry. These two topics have be discussed ad infinitum or ad naseum without resolution, along with oil and white wall tires!

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Old 08-23-2017, 09:17 PM   #45
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Dan and crew,
I for one think that both meets will do fine, and I want to thank you for taking on the task and doing it. having helped with the st. louis meets in 1988,co-chairing the 2005 membership meet and helping in 2014 I can say that its a lot of work but you do it out of heart for the cause and people attending. Having sold out the host hotel as of today is quite a good sign and I know that it will be a great success. You have our support of the Missouri Valley Region and you know mine personally with some technical and start up events.

It's a huge task to undertake and i know it will be great. thanks to all of you on your committee for your volunteer efforts and we look forward to the Branson meet
All the best!
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Larry thanks for the kind words.

Missouri Valley Region is hosting a Friday " Barn Fresh" start up of a Model A that hasn't run in at least 25 years. Branson region is doing a 50-50 raffle on the person who best guesses how long it will take to get the car running. That region is St Louis based and has done this in memorial to Terry Oberer and some of the pasts greats from that club. It is annually attend by as many as 150 members and is the most attended event in the spring there in St Louis. Should anyone know of a barn fresh candidate for this event to be held in Branson on Friday morning please contact Larry Shepard, larrys40 here on FB.
Look forward to a great meet and hopefully we can do it again in 2021 without conflict with MAFCA meet, Lord willing.
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Dan and all. I'm looking forward to doing our start up event and some technical seminars at Branson. We are as Dan noted above looking for a "Start Up " candidate for the event.
This years was our first "AA" and it had not run in probably 40 years or more.. Engine was free but had no compression. 4 plus valves stuck. We pulled the head, got things freed up, and did what we had to do to get it running... and it was going in 1 hour and 6 minutes.
Terry Oberer, my since passed Mentor and friend started it 25 years ago. We have been successful every year getting one going. Some go quick, some not. We've done pistons, etc. It's a fun event for us and we think it will be a cool event of a different nature at the national. It is a participation event. Since Terry's passing myself and Mark Schenberg here locally put the event on at his Modern repair shop Car Doc Automotive. His new shop is awesome!

If you have a possible candidate please drop me a line or send me an e-mail at [email protected]. My PM box is fairly full so I will try to delete.
preferably one that does NOT have a stuck engine but has not been run in 25+ years.
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Here's a link or two to a few recent ones. Admittedly the awesome video from a few years ago was an easy car. Although it had not run in about 24 years.


2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWe8Ex_aWTI

2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSuhZ9neOY0

Enjoy and hope you can make the Branson meet.
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:30 AM   #48
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Dan and crew
I would like to thank you all plus all the others that have donated their time and effort to put on all the meets in the past and in the future. It is often a thankless job with a lot of belly aching about small details that someone didn't like. As an elderly lady at the church I attend says "suck it up butter cup", unless you are willing to try to do it better then you don't have any reason to complain.

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Old 08-24-2017, 12:01 PM   #49
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Seems pretty simple to me. Pick which one you want to go to and attend. Choice is good. I'm a MARC guy, others are MAFCA guys. Make your choice and live with it. There are always going to be complainers and haters.
Agreed. I like having two clubs and more stuff to choose from.
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your missing the point....they don't want it changed!
Maybe that is the problem. They do not want to change. If you want members you need to do what they want to do.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:30 PM   #51
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Hello America this could be some of your international problems ????
This is offensive.
Schedule your New Zealand club meets anyway you like; but its not polite for you to criticize our government. I will pay you the same respect by not criticizing yours. There are still some of us who are protective of the country our forefathers fought for.
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