The Ford Barn

vern hodgson · 06-17-2017, 07:41 PM

Guy calls me from California offering to sell some model a parts I was looking for. Wants to do the deal right away. I had advertised for them a year or so back. He goes by the name of Armando Castro, says his father has used the barn before. Can any one shed any light on this? I am traveling in Utah at the present time???

Mark W. · 06-17-2017, 08:20 PM

Don't think it is anything BUT A SCAM if he is pushing for a quick payment or easy deal...

Is he willing to send pictures? If so, and after he does, then ask for a picture of the other side, if he picked the picture off the internet he wouldn't be able to supply another to easily and you can tell if it is the same parts.

Good luck, but I wouldn't be too quick to pay.

H. L. Chauvin · 06-17-2017, 08:23 PM

I'll shed my experienced light:

1. Ever notice salesmen:

A. You only have 3 days to get 20% off.

B. While they last, hurry to get your free umbrella with your car's new brake job.

2. How about? Hey, I'm in Utah!

A. E.g., nobody is watching my house.

B. Ask him if he can wait until "you" are able to meet with him.

mike657894 · 06-17-2017, 09:49 PM

im pretty savy. and it smells fishy to me.

mike657894 · 06-17-2017, 09:50 PM

what parts are you in need of?

1931flathead · 06-17-2017, 09:56 PM

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ask him for a pics of it but tell him to put something in the pics so he cannot use one off the web

vern hodgson · 06-17-2017, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike657894

what parts are you in need of?

Tudor sedan rear seats or springs, and now I am worried!

vern hodgson · 06-17-2017, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike657894

im pretty savy. and it smells fishy to me.

Now I feel pretty stupid, he asked for my address to get me a shipping cost. Guess there's one born every minute

Charlie Stephens · 06-17-2017, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vern hodgson

Now I feel pretty stupid, he asked for my address to get me a shipping cost. Guess there's one born every minute

All he needs is your zip code to get a shipping cost and whether it is a residence or business. Give it to him.

Charlie Stephens

H. L. Chauvin · 06-17-2017, 10:56 PM

Hi Vern,

Small sincere hint from a few past Sad Experiences:

Many here would trust Mr. Walt Bratton, Mr. Steve at Bert's, or Mr. Snyder with a four (4) thousand dollar Model A order any day of the week.

However, about 20 years ago I trusted a quite few slick Model A used car parts jerks advertising their cheap Model A used parts with Hemmings Motor News.

One guy had a pair of 1930 Coupe rear fenders ..... another guy had a 1930 differential ..... etc., etc., .... after arrival with costly truck shipping, they were both 1929.

Called each one and both answered about as honestly as Adolph Hitler playing Santa at the White House during Christmas of 1939.

Be very careful .... some sick jerks today love picking up cheap inoperable crap at their local garage sales, swap meets, sell same on Ebay or elsewhere, and then brag on their great professional salesmanship ability.

old car guy · 06-17-2017, 11:03 PM

Vern it could well be a scam, but you did advertise for the parts and he did respond albeit very late but! Have them shipped cod or find out where he lives and have a ford barner in the area look at them . Nothing in buying used or antique parts is ever anything but a gamble. Sure it's a lot safer when you know the seller personally, but that's only about 10 percent of the time when you are buying parts. I have bought many thousands of dollars of parts along the way and for the most part it's been a fairly decent transaction. But I also have been burned by reputable sellers along the way also. It's always been a crap shoot. I hope the parts are real and that he really does have them if they are the ones you need .
Best of luck in finding them .

Floats · 06-18-2017, 12:13 AM

Hi Vern,
The OLD CAR GUY is correct. There are a zillion barners in all the 360 corners of the world, who will gladly go and have a look for you.
Regard
Chris
Cape Town

Paul Bennett · 06-18-2017, 02:37 AM

I was trusting when I was young and eventually learned when to keep my cards close to my vest (always). First, assume Armando may be your lost uncle with just what you need. That acknowledged ...

You want information, he wants money. It is actually easy to protect yourself and be gentlemanly in your conduct. Basically, when you meet a stranger, assume you might eventually become best of friends and treat them with complete respect. Ask questions but politely ignore his questions.

Give strangers next to no information whatsoever. If they insist walk away. And/or it is very easy to lie about addresses, phone number, and virtually any personal information and still learn enough about a potential dealings or offering. And as things pan out, gradually come clean or correct your personal information as the situation requires.

Also, why some have trouble with Craigslist transactions I'll never know as CL is perfect for both parties being completely satisfied in a barter exchange. And never come to know anyone's name, phone or ??.

Also, as others have mentioned, there is no rush. If you miss getting a rare something at a cheap price, it just wasn't meant to be. That attitude will go far. As will treating people kindly and with trust. Now then, what's your SS nr? Have I got a deal for you.

vern hodgson · 06-18-2017, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floats

Hi Vern,
The OLD CAR GUY is correct. There are a zillion barners in all the 360 corners of the world, who will gladly go and have a look for you.
Regard
Chris
Cape Town

Ok his name is armondo Castro. 650-304-2383. 739 clear field lane. Milbrae ca. 94030 all I want are the rear seats. He talked as if he had more parts??? Who knows. Let us know what you find. It's in the San Francisco area.

duke36 · 06-18-2017, 10:10 AM

google the address for a street shot to verify if there's such a place; one can view public records also, white pages, zillo to help verify. If you need seats, one can get frames and springs from Snyders, Le Baron Bonney.

30 Tudor · 06-19-2017, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vern hodgson

Ok his name is .........................
all I want are the rear seats. He talked as if he had more parts??? Who knows. Let us know what you find. It's in the San Francisco area.

So possibly he just happened to see your ad and was trying to sell you some parts. So now you've posted his name, address, and phone number on this forum.

Maybe you should be talking to him.

Possibly you might be starting to freak him out, if he sees this.

Just thinkin out loud,,,

jimalabam · 06-19-2017, 07:35 AM

Lotta excellent info in the above posts. My best to add is BUYER BEWARE...

V4F · 06-19-2017, 08:41 AM

if you had the "wanted" on Craig's list , I would run the other way .

Slowplane · 06-19-2017, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30 tudor

so possibly he just happened to see your ad and was trying to sell you some parts. So now you've posted his name, address, and phone number on this forum.

Maybe you should be talking to him.

Possibly you might be starting to freak him out, if he sees this.

Just thinkin out loud,,,

x2...

Railcarmover · 06-19-2017, 10:11 PM

Millbrae is a nice part of the Bay Area..Regardless if you think its a scam or not,posting his full contact info on the internet without his permission is a rotten thing to do...if you dont want to do business with him dont,but dont bandy his name and address around cause you THINK he might be fishy.
Use paypal to pay for the parts,they have a dispute policy that protects you.I just sold an entire car with emailed pictures and took payment over paypal..the transport showed and the 57 Oval Vw was gone..cash in hand. Ive never been burned buying parts from strangers over the internet..most,if not all are guys like you and me...you'd have to be a pretty unique (and stupid) criminal to hustle someone over some car parts.

06-17-2017, 07:41 PM	#1
vern hodgson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: langley, wa. Posts: 642	Scam? Guy calls me from California offering to sell some model a parts I was looking for. Wants to do the deal right away. I had advertised for them a year or so back. He goes by the name of Armando Castro, says his father has used the barn before. Can any one shed any light on this? I am traveling in Utah at the present time???

06-17-2017, 08:20 PM	#2
Mark W. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 342	Re: Scam? Don't think it is anything BUT A SCAM if he is pushing for a quick payment or easy deal... Is he willing to send pictures? If so, and after he does, then ask for a picture of the other side, if he picked the picture off the internet he wouldn't be able to supply another to easily and you can tell if it is the same parts. Good luck, but I wouldn't be too quick to pay.

06-17-2017, 08:23 PM	#3
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Scam? I'll shed my experienced light: 1. Ever notice salesmen: A. You only have 3 days to get 20% off. B. While they last, hurry to get your free umbrella with your car's new brake job. 2. How about? Hey, I'm in Utah! A. E.g., nobody is watching my house. B. Ask him if he can wait until "you" are able to meet with him.

06-17-2017, 09:49 PM	#4
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: Scam? im pretty savy. and it smells fishy to me.

06-17-2017, 09:50 PM	#5
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: Scam? what parts are you in need of?

06-17-2017, 09:56 PM	#6
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: Scam? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) ask him for a pics of it but tell him to put something in the pics so he cannot use one off the web

06-17-2017, 10:56 PM	#10
H. L. Chauvin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,179	Re: Scam? Hi Vern, Small sincere hint from a few past Sad Experiences: Many here would trust Mr. Walt Bratton, Mr. Steve at Bert's, or Mr. Snyder with a four (4) thousand dollar Model A order any day of the week. However, about 20 years ago I trusted a quite few slick Model A used car parts jerks advertising their cheap Model A used parts with Hemmings Motor News. One guy had a pair of 1930 Coupe rear fenders ..... another guy had a 1930 differential ..... etc., etc., .... after arrival with costly truck shipping, they were both 1929. Called each one and both answered about as honestly as Adolph Hitler playing Santa at the White House during Christmas of 1939. Be very careful .... some sick jerks today love picking up cheap inoperable crap at their local garage sales, swap meets, sell same on Ebay or elsewhere, and then brag on their great professional salesmanship ability.

06-17-2017, 11:03 PM	#11
old car guy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: tampa fl Posts: 194	Re: Scam? Vern it could well be a scam, but you did advertise for the parts and he did respond albeit very late but! Have them shipped cod or find out where he lives and have a ford barner in the area look at them . Nothing in buying used or antique parts is ever anything but a gamble. Sure it's a lot safer when you know the seller personally, but that's only about 10 percent of the time when you are buying parts. I have bought many thousands of dollars of parts along the way and for the most part it's been a fairly decent transaction. But I also have been burned by reputable sellers along the way also. It's always been a crap shoot. I hope the parts are real and that he really does have them if they are the ones you need . Best of luck in finding them . __________________ old car guy

06-18-2017, 12:13 AM	#12
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Scam? Hi Vern, The OLD CAR GUY is correct. There are a zillion barners in all the 360 corners of the world, who will gladly go and have a look for you. Regard Chris Cape Town

06-18-2017, 02:37 AM	#13
Paul Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 628	Re: Scam? I was trusting when I was young and eventually learned when to keep my cards close to my vest (always). First, assume Armando may be your lost uncle with just what you need. That acknowledged ... You want information, he wants money. It is actually easy to protect yourself and be gentlemanly in your conduct. Basically, when you meet a stranger, assume you might eventually become best of friends and treat them with complete respect. Ask questions but politely ignore his questions. Give strangers next to no information whatsoever. If they insist walk away. And/or it is very easy to lie about addresses, phone number, and virtually any personal information and still learn enough about a potential dealings or offering. And as things pan out, gradually come clean or correct your personal information as the situation requires. Also, why some have trouble with Craigslist transactions I'll never know as CL is perfect for both parties being completely satisfied in a barter exchange. And never come to know anyone's name, phone or ??. Also, as others have mentioned, there is no rush. If you miss getting a rare something at a cheap price, it just wasn't meant to be. That attitude will go far. As will treating people kindly and with trust. Now then, what's your SS nr? Have I got a deal for you. Last edited by Paul Bennett; 06-18-2017 at 02:46 AM.

06-18-2017, 10:10 AM	#15
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Scam? google the address for a street shot to verify if there's such a place; one can view public records also, white pages, zillo to help verify. If you need seats, one can get frames and springs from Snyders, Le Baron Bonney.

06-19-2017, 07:35 AM	#17
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: Scam? Lotta excellent info in the above posts. My best to add is BUYER BEWARE...

06-19-2017, 08:41 AM	#18
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Scam? if you had the "wanted" on Craig's list , I would run the other way . __________________ V4f

06-19-2017, 10:11 PM	#20
Railcarmover BANNED Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,262	Re: Scam? Millbrae is a nice part of the Bay Area..Regardless if you think its a scam or not,posting his full contact info on the internet without his permission is a rotten thing to do...if you dont want to do business with him dont,but dont bandy his name and address around cause you THINK he might be fishy. Use paypal to pay for the parts,they have a dispute policy that protects you.I just sold an entire car with emailed pictures and took payment over paypal..the transport showed and the 57 Oval Vw was gone..cash in hand. Ive never been burned buying parts from strangers over the internet..most,if not all are guys like you and me...you'd have to be a pretty unique (and stupid) criminal to hustle someone over some car parts.