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rogerkb1936 · 05-13-2020, 11:00 AM

did all 1/2 ton pickups have enclosed driveshafts up to 1948?

V8COOPMAN · 05-13-2020, 11:19 AM

No! 1942 pick-ups began with a totally new chassis, new semi-eliptic-spring suspension system, and an exposed, open-type driveshaft with a U-joint on each end....and NO torque tube. You got a thing for S-58s? DD

rogerkb1936 · 05-13-2020, 12:02 PM

I have about 3000 hrs downstairs in that machine, working for air America in laos. money was good, but you could earn it all in a couple seconds. but yes, it is the best piston powered heli ever made

Hal Beatty · 05-13-2020, 12:23 PM

S-58, those things are beasts! In a good way.

34fordy · 05-13-2020, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerkb1936

I have about 3000 hrs downstairs in that machine, working for air America in laos. money was good, but you could earn it all in a couple seconds. but yes, it is the best piston powered heli ever made

Please tell the uninformed like me what "downstairs" refers to.

GB SISSON · 05-13-2020, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy

Please tell the uninformed like me what "downstairs" refers to.

I've been sittin' here eating lunch and puzzling over that statement as well. Oh and on the longitudanal leafs/ hotchkiss open drive thing, it was the best thing to happen to ford pickups since the V8.

V8COOPMAN · 05-13-2020, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerkb1936

I have about 3000 hrs downstairs in that machine, working for air America in laos. money was good, but you could earn it all in a couple seconds. but yes, it is the best piston powered heli ever made

Yup.....Wright R-1820s from the factory. The cold-natured beasts sound as good as a Ford flathead with a hellacious camshaft when cranking-up! Click this link, and TURN THE VOLUME UP!! DD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3CeC6Ah0rE

V8COOPMAN · 05-13-2020, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy

Please tell the uninformed like me what "downstairs" refers to.

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON

I've been sittin' here eating lunch and puzzling over that statement as well. Oh and on the longitudanal leafs/ hotchkiss open drive thing, it was the best thing to happen to ford pickups since the V8.

The pilots sit "upstairs". The "downstairs" guys usually have the door wide open, either chunkin' or shootin' nasty shit out the door at bad guys. DD

GB SISSON · 05-13-2020, 02:59 PM

Bad guys need a bit of that now and then.... Thanks for the explanation. Great lunchtime video BTW!

rotorwrench · 05-13-2020, 06:35 PM

The S-58 pilot compartment is up high with the crew compartment down low. The Marines used them for a long time and the UK used them even longer with the turbine engine conversion.

I worked along side one back in the early 80s that had the twin PT-6 power pack conversion by California Helicopters. A mechanic had to work on them a lot. Not because the broke more or anything like that. They just required a lot of greasing, servicing, and inspection compared to more modern stuff. A lot of the guys I knew that flew and crewed them referred to them as the Flying Hotel.

The original H34/S58 had the helicopter version of the Wright R1820 or 998C9HE-2 engines. The smaller S-55 had the helicopter version of the Pratt & Whitney Wasp R1340 or S1H2 engine. A lot of the old H19s did have the Wright R-1300.

05-13-2020, 11:00 AM	#1
rogerkb1936 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 825	question... did all 1/2 ton pickups have enclosed driveshafts up to 1948?

05-13-2020, 11:19 AM	#2
V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,113	Re: question... No! 1942 pick-ups began with a totally new chassis, new semi-eliptic-spring suspension system, and an exposed, open-type driveshaft with a U-joint on each end....and NO torque tube. You got a thing for S-58s? DD __________________ *Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

05-13-2020, 12:02 PM	#3
rogerkb1936 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 825	Re: question... I have about 3000 hrs downstairs in that machine, working for air America in laos. money was good, but you could earn it all in a couple seconds. but yes, it is the best piston powered heli ever made

05-13-2020, 12:23 PM	#4
Hal Beatty Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 213	Re: question... S-58, those things are beasts! In a good way.

05-13-2020, 02:59 PM	#9
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,930	Re: question... Bad guys need a bit of that now and then.... Thanks for the explanation. Great lunchtime video BTW! __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

05-13-2020, 06:35 PM	#10
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,431	Re: question... The S-58 pilot compartment is up high with the crew compartment down low. The Marines used them for a long time and the UK used them even longer with the turbine engine conversion. I worked along side one back in the early 80s that had the twin PT-6 power pack conversion by California Helicopters. A mechanic had to work on them a lot. Not because the broke more or anything like that. They just required a lot of greasing, servicing, and inspection compared to more modern stuff. A lot of the guys I knew that flew and crewed them referred to them as the Flying Hotel. The original H34/S58 had the helicopter version of the Wright R1820 or 998C9HE-2 engines. The smaller S-55 had the helicopter version of the Pratt & Whitney Wasp R1340 or S1H2 engine. A lot of the old H19s did have the Wright R-1300.