Hemmings 2016 Predictions

[denis4x4]

This is an interesting read.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...16/?refer=news

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Kind of parallels the recent Model A value thread.

Blue chip cars, best of the best in terms of desirability such as certain Full Classics or postwar sportscars like a MB 300 SL, V-12 Ferrari, etc. appreciate a little differently than most collector cars.

Real world cars most of us have are driven to some degree by the ever changing cycle of the age of the collector/enthusiast. The sweet spot for the market - people mid career as discussed many times before. Anyone needing more proof should price Porsches as suggested in the HMN article, or even late 70s/early 80s Camaro Z-28 or Pontiac T/A. You will pay dearly for a good example, despite high production numbers on these cars. The generation HMN is referring to is less interested in our cars but also less interested in cars of the 50s and 60s. They relate to a mid 80s Mustang more readily than grandpa's '65 that started it all, because that is what they wanted back in the day, not the '65.

We attend some events that are not Model A or even largely prewar focused, such as the Limerock Historics - this year, like every other was packed with 1/3 to 1/2 of the crowd under 35 or 40 in my estimate. In time, a lot of these hobbyists may likely have a Model A to go with their other cars, which I see happening now with quite a few people I know locally who own an A.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Many choose their particular Make/Year of Old Car, because they used to have one OR got married in one or it was their first NEW Car.---- "MEMORIES ARE MADE OF THIS"---LOL.
My first NEW Car was a '72 Mercury-Montego, a left over year model, of course! The LAST one in stock! I made them put in a NEW BATTERY!
Bill W.

[CarlG]

My first 2 cars were Model As

[garyjohn]

My first car was a 1930 model a ford coupe

[Big hammer]

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I still can't afford a new car, I still own my first car, 31 Tudor :-)

[Mike V. Florida]

" As more people decide Model A’s are cool, however, look for prices on project cars and completed builds to rise."

Seems to go against what a lot are predicting here about the collapse of the Model A and the flood of cars to come to market.

Will be interesting to see what time has to tell.

[Larry Jenkins]

How can something that was made 86 years ago, and no longer made, "flood the market?"

Reminds me of the Hunt (right name?) Brothers silver scam that drove the silver prices almost to a hundreed bucks an ounce many years ago by making similar statements...

Larry

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Larry Jenkins

How can something that was made 86 years ago, and no longer made, "flood the market?"


Larry

Simple, every one that ones one is going to die within the next few years and their heirs will want nothing to do with them so the market is flooded with unwanted cars. (or so I have read here on the barn)

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Simple, every one that ones one is going to die within the next few years and their heirs will want nothing to do with them so the market is flooded with unwanted cars. (or so I have read here on the barn)

Cash for Clunkers will take care of that.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Cash for Clunkers will take care of that.

"MAYBE" I'll sell Vermin to some REALLY OLD GUY & when he DIES, I'll buy him back at a HEFTY DISCOUNT
Bill W.

[Tim B.]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

" As more people decide Model A’s are cool, however, look for prices on project cars and completed builds to rise."

Seems to go against what a lot are predicting here about the collapse of the Model A and the flood of cars to come to market.

Will be interesting to see what time has to tell.

The prediction for the rise in Model A prices was based on a resurgence in the market for Cool Model A period banger and flathead hot rods. The market value discussions on the Barn are about stock vehicles (with a predisposition that it will remain as such).

Same vehicle but different markets. Both market trends can be correct.

[ronn]

as long as gas stays low, v-8s will be around in America.

Many of these predictions are nothing more then common sense..................

Porshe have been on the rise for one reason-have you priced a Ferrari lately?

[Jeff/Illinois]

Something Steve said in post #2 "they are even less interested in the 50's-60's cars and more interested in the 80's" there is a certain amount of truth to that.

Stick a 20 year old in a '65 Mustang that drives and handles like a lumber wagon then let him get into a late 80's Fox body Mustang------ I'll wager 4 times out of 5 they choose the 80's car just because they drive and handle so much better. Most of us grew up driving 1960's cars so we KNOW what to expect and it isn't as big of a deal to us.

I am told that the aftermarket rack-and pinion steering adapters for old Mustangs and the Borgeson integral P/S units are a big seller for those 60's cars.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Tim B.

The prediction for the rise in Model A prices was based on a resurgence in the market for Cool Model A period banger and flathead hot rods. The market value discussions on the Barn are about stock vehicles (with a predisposition that it will remain as such).

Same vehicle but different markets. Both market trends can be correct.

The Boca Raton Concours now has a vintage Hot Rod category for judging and trophy.

[colin1928]

A few years back I looked at Stats from a specialty insurance company the type that insure rare cars to hot rods and restored
In general the sweet spot was age of the buyer minus 15-20 years

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Jeff, another reason is that there is no nostalgic tie in for a 20 - 25 year old with a 60s muscle or pony car. In fact, when our 26 year old got his first car, it was an early 90s Mustang - despite my efforts to interest him in a '65 or '66 coupe. I realized then one of my "short list cars not yet bought" had nothing to do with his interests.

I think what will keep our "A"s around is the simplicity and overall cool design - for someone interested in the prewar era it is the best first step hands down. I think the future will look like, "Oh yeah, I have a this and that, and we really like the Model A to take around once in a while" - but I guess my prediction is about as good or bad as anyone elses, only time will tell...

[Ross/Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Cash for Clunkers will take care of that.

Let's hope that EVERYBODY wised up after that one.

[redmodelt]

My first car was a truck, 46 Dodge 1 ton. Only one Model A so far and it was so far gone, parted it out. Guess if I was going to have a car that reminded me of Grandma and Grandpa it would be the 59 Buick, pink it was or the mid 60's red Dodge Dart Grandma had later. I do have my Great Uncles 1948 F2 that he bought new. Does that count?

[Terry, NJ]

What a fraud that was! Just like "Fast and Furious" I new a poor (Low paid) dyed in the wool democrat (democrats, the party of the little guy! Right?) who was incensed at pictures of some really nice cars that were destroyed in that debacle.
Terry

Originally Posted by Ross/Kzoo

Let's hope that EVERYBODY wised up after that one.