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Charlie Stephens · 12-09-2018, 06:34 PM

If you want to pull out the rear axles and ring gear for inspection which side does it pull out?

Charlie Stephens

Purdy Swoft · 12-09-2018, 06:41 PM

Both axles and gears can be removed from the drivers side .

Charlie Stephens · 12-09-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

Both axles and gears can be removed from the drivers side .

Thanks, I didn't want to trust my memory.

Charlie Stephens

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-09-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

Thanks, I didn't want to trust my memory.

Charlie Stephens

Purdy & Charlie,
I answered the question & I recently had a Stroke. Thet Bullet jist missed me!!!---LOL---Glad it wuzn't a GRENADE!!!
Bill Williamson

redmodelt · 12-09-2018, 09:06 PM

Seems to me that would be a lot more work then just pulling the whole rear end. Besides, how are you going to check and reset the preload?

Synchro909 · 12-09-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

Both axles and gears can be removed from the drivers side .

Huh??

Tom Endy · 12-09-2018, 09:24 PM

The attached link is to an article about how to remove the axle assemblies from a rear axle assembly with out removing the entire rear from the car.

http://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-conte...-REAR-AXLE.pdf

Tom Endy

Bill G · 12-09-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

Huh??

All in perspective

It kinda depends on which side of the road you drive on.

Purdy Swoft · 12-09-2018, 10:15 PM

In that case it would be the left side . I always use the drivers side term for our LHD cars because it is less confusing to some .

Purdy Swoft · 12-09-2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Purdy & Charlie,
I answered the question & I recently had a Stroke. Thet Bullet jist missed me!!!---LOL---Glad it wuzn't a GRENADE!!!
Bill Williamson

Good on ya , Bill !!! Its good to see you back !!!!!!!

Synchro909 · 12-10-2018, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

In that case it would be the left side . I always use the drivers side term for our LHD cars because it is less confusing to some .

I understand why some of you do that but I can't for the life of me understand why instructions for the istallation of things do the same. For example, I saw ionstructions on how to install con rods say that the scoop should face the passenger's side. I wonder if someone from over here would be covered by warranty if they did just that. Right and left makes much more sense - it is universal.y understood, surley.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-10-2018, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

In that case it would be the left side . I always use the drivers side term for our LHD cars because it is less confusing to some .

Jaguars refer to sides as the NEAR side & the OFF sides, depending on whichaway you're GOING!!! The wheel knock offs are labeled as such!
Even parts have their own terminology, like, the BOOT, the SCUTTLE, the WING, the BOOT, the HOOD, the DRIVE AXLE, and the list goes ON & ON!
Bill Confused

updraught · 12-10-2018, 07:32 AM

>>SCUTTLE, the WING, the BOOT, the HOOD

I'd say cowl, the mudguard, the boot and the hood. Sort of half and half ...

Definition of "scuttle" on the web.
"The scuttle panel is most usually the part between windscreen and bonnet, where the windscreen wipers are mounted - in roadsters, the top panel of the dashboard can also have the same name...

The panel between the engine compartment and passenger compartment (the vertical panel) is the bulkhead.

It's origin in this sense is said to be linked to the "scuttles" on board sailing ships, which were hatches cut in the deck and covered with a "lid" - some say the root is the Old French word "escoutille", which is the origin of "scuttling" a ship - you opened all the hatches, letting the sea in and sinking the ship..."

tuneman · 12-10-2018, 08:29 AM

In my model a the scoops always face the cam side of engine .

Purdy Swoft · 12-10-2018, 10:49 AM

[QUOTE=Synchro909;1704189]I understand why some of you do that but I can't for the life of me understand why instructions for the istallation of things do the same. For example, I saw ionstructions on how to install con rods say that the scoop should face the passenger's side. I wonder if someone from over here would be covered by warranty if they did just that. Right and left makes much more sense - it is universal.y understood, surley.[/QUOTE

I think that the confusion comes in on how to determine which side is left or right . Left or right is determined when sitting in the car . We sit on the left side here to drive the car so drivers side better describes the left . You might be surprised how many body parts get ordered for the wrong side .

Charlie Stephens · 12-10-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by redmodelt

Seems to me that would be a lot more work then just pulling the whole rear end. Besides, how are you going to check and reset the preload?

The rear end is already out, I just wanted to check the condition of the gears and wear pattern. I assume if you reassemble the axle with the same thickness shims that adjustment would not be necessary, any comment from anyone?

Charlie Stephens

Purdy Swoft · 12-10-2018, 12:05 PM

I replaced the right rear axle on my September 29 with the rear end in the car . I removed both hubs and drums . I removed the bolts on the left side of the banjo and removed the left axle housing . I was able to remove both axles and differential out the left side . I didn't disturb or remove the gasket . I put gasket sealer on the old gasket and put it back together . It worked out good , no leaks and is quite as ever . The hardest thing was the placement and setup of the jack stands .

tinkirk · 12-10-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

If you want to pull out the rear axles and ring gear for inspection which side does it pull out?

Charlie Stephens

i would have to say if all you want to do is look at the ring and pinion,
then just take the right axle tube off then you will be able to take a look see at the gears and such, without disturbing much

Tinkirk/Terry

ursus · 12-10-2018, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tinkirk

i would have to say if all you want to do is look at the ring and pinion,
then just take the right axle tube off then you will be able to take a look see at the gears and such, without disturbing much

Tinkirk/Terry

I left everything undisturbed, drained the oil and filled the housing with kerosene as a flush. I then rotated the assembly a dozen times from each side, drained it, and dried it out with a stream of air from a hair dryer directed into the fill hole. Then, with a light shined into the fill hole and a mini-borescope into the drain hole, I was able clearly see the condition of the ring and pinion as the assembly was rotated. A partial view of the axle teeth can also be made as well. Without a borescope, if you cock your head just so from the right side, you can see just the ring and pinion teeth.

Rich in Tucson · 12-10-2018, 09:02 PM

Just remember with old Ford Banjo rear ends, and ONLY old Ford rear ends, "Left is right, and right is wrong".

12-09-2018, 06:34 PM	#1
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,030	Rear Axle removal to inspect gears If you want to pull out the rear axles and ring gear for inspection which side does it pull out? Charlie Stephens

12-09-2018, 06:41 PM	#2
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears Both axles and gears can be removed from the drivers side .

12-09-2018, 09:06 PM	#5
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears Seems to me that would be a lot more work then just pulling the whole rear end. Besides, how are you going to check and reset the preload? __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

12-09-2018, 09:24 PM	#7
Tom Endy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,131	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears The attached link is to an article about how to remove the axle assemblies from a rear axle assembly with out removing the entire rear from the car. http://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-conte...-REAR-AXLE.pdf Tom Endy

12-09-2018, 10:15 PM	#9
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears In that case it would be the left side . I always use the drivers side term for our LHD cars because it is less confusing to some .

12-10-2018, 07:32 AM	#13
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,969	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears >>SCUTTLE, the WING, the BOOT, the HOOD I'd say cowl, the mudguard, the boot and the hood. Sort of half and half ... Definition of "scuttle" on the web. "The scuttle panel is most usually the part between windscreen and bonnet, where the windscreen wipers are mounted - in roadsters, the top panel of the dashboard can also have the same name... The panel between the engine compartment and passenger compartment (the vertical panel) is the bulkhead. It's origin in this sense is said to be linked to the "scuttles" on board sailing ships, which were hatches cut in the deck and covered with a "lid" - some say the root is the Old French word "escoutille", which is the origin of "scuttling" a ship - you opened all the hatches, letting the sea in and sinking the ship..."

12-10-2018, 08:29 AM	#14
tuneman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 264	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears In my model a the scoops always face the cam side of engine .

12-10-2018, 10:49 AM	#15
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears [QUOTE=Synchro909;1704189]I understand why some of you do that but I can't for the life of me understand why instructions for the istallation of things do the same. For example, I saw ionstructions on how to install con rods say that the scoop should face the passenger's side. I wonder if someone from over here would be covered by warranty if they did just that. Right and left makes much more sense - it is universal.y understood, surley.[/QUOTE I think that the confusion comes in on how to determine which side is left or right . Left or right is determined when sitting in the car . We sit on the left side here to drive the car so drivers side better describes the left . You might be surprised how many body parts get ordered for the wrong side .

12-10-2018, 12:05 PM	#17
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears I replaced the right rear axle on my September 29 with the rear end in the car . I removed both hubs and drums . I removed the bolts on the left side of the banjo and removed the left axle housing . I was able to remove both axles and differential out the left side . I didn't disturb or remove the gasket . I put gasket sealer on the old gasket and put it back together . It worked out good , no leaks and is quite as ever . The hardest thing was the placement and setup of the jack stands .

12-10-2018, 09:02 PM	#20
Rich in Tucson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 374	Re: Rear Axle removal to inspect gears Just remember with old Ford Banjo rear ends, and ONLY old Ford rear ends, "Left is right, and right is wrong".