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Barnwood · 08-09-2021, 07:04 AM

My dad purchased a Model A 60 years ago, and it had this carburetor inside. It doesn't look like either the Zenith or Tillotson images I've seen online, and it doesn't have anything written on it. How can I identify what type it is?

https://ibb.co/vcDhRxH
https://ibb.co/GVncb3n
https://ibb.co/MnsgcBS

Conaway2 · 08-09-2021, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barnwood

My dad purchased a Model A 60 years ago, and it had this carburetor inside. It doesn't look like either the Zenith or Tillotson images I've seen online, and it doesn't have anything written on it. How can I identify what type it is?

https://ibb.co/vcDhRxH
https://ibb.co/GVncb3n
https://ibb.co/MnsgcBS

That looks like a Marvel Schrebler carburetor - a fairly common after-market Model A carb. Although I;ve never run one of those, I understand they can perform quite well.

Jim

chrs1961815 · 08-09-2021, 08:22 AM

Yes that is a marvel. Common aftermarket carb that gives a little more power.

Y-Blockhead · 08-09-2021, 08:58 AM

As others said, Marvel Schebler. Supposedly even had a Ford part number for a replacement for the Zenith. Also know as an Allstate (sold by Sears) or Johnson. It doesn't have anything written on it because they put a decal on them for the different "Brands". 80 years later most have 'lost' their stickers

Smooth running carburetor.

abachman3 · 08-09-2021, 01:26 PM

You can get parts for a re-build from Renners Corners in Michigan.

slatgrille · 08-09-2021, 03:54 PM

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x2 on Renners...great guy to deal with. Sent me the gasket kit for my Marvel first THEN had me send him a check. I put it on my engine because the Tillotson leaked and the Zenith needs a complete overhaul. The Marvel also has a better set-up for the GAV...seems 'beefier', easier to turn.

Craig

Bob from Northport · 08-09-2021, 05:19 PM

Any idea where someone might obtain one of those carburetors??

Jim Baskin III Pa. · 08-09-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob from Northport

Any idea where someone might obtain one of those carburetors??

Jim does a great job on carbs.

https://jmacarbs.com/

Wick · 08-10-2021, 05:17 AM

The Marvel is found at swap meets for about $5 They are usually missing the gav. Parts.
Mikes model A has some parts also.
Great carburetor.

Y-Blockhead · 08-10-2021, 08:38 AM

Be careful when rebuilding not to over tighten the top screws. Marvels tend to warp and leak like Tillotsons. I cut my own gaskets from Cork/Buna-N as I find the the hard paper gaskets hard to seal.

08-09-2021, 07:04 AM	#1
Barnwood Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: La Crescent, MN Posts: 34	Identifying a carburetor My dad purchased a Model A 60 years ago, and it had this carburetor inside. It doesn't look like either the Zenith or Tillotson images I've seen online, and it doesn't have anything written on it. How can I identify what type it is? https://ibb.co/vcDhRxH https://ibb.co/GVncb3n https://ibb.co/MnsgcBS

08-09-2021, 08:22 AM	#3
chrs1961815 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spring Grove, Illinois Posts: 1,371	Re: Identifying a carburetor Yes that is a marvel. Common aftermarket carb that gives a little more power. __________________ "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

08-09-2021, 08:58 AM	#4
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,847	Re: Identifying a carburetor As others said, Marvel Schebler. Supposedly even had a Ford part number for a replacement for the Zenith. Also know as an Allstate (sold by Sears) or Johnson. It doesn't have anything written on it because they put a decal on them for the different "Brands". 80 years later most have 'lost' their stickers Smooth running carburetor. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 08-09-2021 at 09:10 AM.

08-09-2021, 01:26 PM	#5
abachman3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Western Springs, IL Posts: 323	Re: Identifying a carburetor You can get parts for a re-build from Renners Corners in Michigan.

08-09-2021, 03:54 PM	#6
slatgrille Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Limerick, ME Posts: 158	Re: Identifying a carburetor Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) x2 on Renners...great guy to deal with. Sent me the gasket kit for my Marvel first THEN had me send him a check. I put it on my engine because the Tillotson leaked and the Zenith needs a complete overhaul. The Marvel also has a better set-up for the GAV...seems 'beefier', easier to turn. Craig

08-09-2021, 05:19 PM	#7
Bob from Northport Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 215 E. 6th Street Northport, Michigan 49670 Posts: 941	Re: Identifying a carburetor Any idea where someone might obtain one of those carburetors?? __________________ Bob from Northport Northport, Michigan

08-10-2021, 05:17 AM	#9
Wick Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gwynn's Island Va Posts: 1,386	Re: Identifying a carburetor The Marvel is found at swap meets for about $5 They are usually missing the gav. Parts. Mikes model A has some parts also. Great carburetor.

08-10-2021, 08:38 AM	#10
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,847	Re: Identifying a carburetor Be careful when rebuilding not to over tighten the top screws. Marvels tend to warp and leak like Tillotsons. I cut my own gaskets from Cork/Buna-N as I find the the hard paper gaskets hard to seal.

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