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Old 08-22-2019, 05:42 AM   #1
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Default Seized Flathead - is it worth it?

I'm in the process of completing one flathead, but recently have been thinking of getting another as either a "spare" or for another potential build. Now one has come up, which is the same year as mine. It is seized and still in the vehicle. The seller is asking $550 which I feel is steep considering I only paid $100 for mine which was in parts when I picked it up. I'll likely go check it out this weekend. What should I be looking for/asking? Pic shows no carb on intake, but other than that motor is complete.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:12 AM   #2
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I agree with you, I have a 59ab stripped, bare block for 350, you pick it up, Chuck.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:17 AM   #3
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$550 for the whole vehicle or just the motor?.....What is the vehicle it’s in?.....Who pulls it out if it’s just the motor?.....I think $550 is a lot for not really knowing what your getting.....Mark
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:02 AM   #4
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Cost is motor only. Looks like it is in a pickup. Agree, it must pulled out ready to go as I'm not messing with trying to get it out.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:10 AM   #5
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It is only worth it if you want and can use the parts as there is a high probably the block could be unusable. Unless a block has been checked it is not of much value. A bad block can have value for use as a mockup during construction.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:30 AM   #6
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Agree. My present flathead has been at the machinist for a year now, and I need a mockup. He did offer one a while back, but he also said my engine would be done end of July. I understand it is a crap shoot, but are there any obvious things I should be looking for? I know for example that the block is prone to cracking along the oil pan interface, but other than that, I don't know of any other areas I should be looking at for cracks.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:37 AM   #7
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Default Re: Seized Flathead - is it worth it?

The price is high - given that you have no clue as to the condition. Now, if the guy will offer a guarantee "that it is a good rebuilder" - pending a mag check on your end, that is a different deal. What I've negotiated is a "I'll split the cost of a mag test" - if it fails, then I want half my money back on the engine. Some will do this - most won't.

Also, what year engine and how complete is it (do you care). Lastly, did the pickup have a hood on it this whole time - or was it open to water pouring down the carb? More details would help my opinion . . . maybe!
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:34 AM   #8
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You are about to waste $550 as the odds of it being good are slim.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:24 AM   #9
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The value is really just the block. Since you can't verify it is usable, and the % is small that it is, $500 seems way too high without a money back guarantee. You will spend a fair amount of time and money just finding out if the block is good. You really don't know until you have done several tests AFTER the cursory check for obvious cracks. The pressure test reveals cracks that are in places that you can't see.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:36 AM   #10
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Just spoke with the seller, and was willing to meet me half way on price, but he needs another week to pull the engine, and due to distance from me and timing, it is not feasible. Will keep my eye out for other opportunities.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:27 AM   #11
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If you would ad where you're located maybe another Barner near you would have just what you need.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:24 AM   #12
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Sounds like way too much for a seized motor, I'd say $100 unless it was a known merc crank. Even then you don't know if it's good.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:39 AM   #13
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This is in CAN$. There is a non-cracked bare block with just crank and rods. Asking price is still CAN$500 which is way too much for me.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:41 AM   #14
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Default Re: Seized Flathead - is it worth it?

A mercury engine guaranteed to have the 4-inch crank also has value in the oil pan, the half bell assembly, the clutch, and the flywheel for those that want to put a later engine in an earlier car. I'd pay more than $200 for all that stuff easy but $550 is stretching it a bit. I'd even pay a bit more than that if it came with a guarantee. On a Ford car motor, not so much. I have a bunch of that stuff in my pile.
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Old 08-23-2019, 01:02 PM   #15
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Zigg, there are 2 nice running flaties in TX. Guy wants 750. ea and ready to bolt in with everything complete and nothing needed.


that might be far, but use that price as a reference.
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