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Topher5150 · 01-09-2018, 10:08 PM

I took apart the speed o on my 47 coupe all the guts look pretty clean, but where the speed o cable hooks into the back is pretty crusty. Do you guys think it's fixable?

fordwife · 01-09-2018, 10:42 PM

It shouldn't be a problem. Clean it up and lube the shaft and gears with light oil. If it isn't stuck it should be okay.

Vintage Copper 47 · 01-10-2018, 12:43 AM

Also check the turtle gear at the transmission... when I had my trans rebuilt last Nov, I replaced the cable & turtle gear (worn,chipped)... It works perfect now! ....

Topher5150 · 01-10-2018, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fordwife

It shouldn't be a problem. Clean it up and lube the shaft and gears with light oil. If it isn't stuck it should be okay.

I put a lil PB blaster on it last night. Is there a way to bench test it?

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Originally Posted by Vintage Copper 47

Also check the turtle gear at the transmission... when I had my trans rebuilt last Nov, I replaced the cable & turtle gear (worn,chipped)... It works perfect now! ....

I don't even have the speed o cable anyone not sure how long it's been sitting out in the elements before I bought the car

deuce lover · 01-10-2018, 06:54 AM

I use a cordless drill slowly in reverse with a square drive bit(the size that fits in the cable opening)

Topher5150 · 01-10-2018, 08:07 AM

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that sounds easy enough, I might just use a ratchet and work it loose first. Was the speed-o cable threaded into the assy?

fordwife · 01-10-2018, 08:22 AM

The cable itself pushes into the shaft, the nut on the cable housing threads into the speedometer body.

deuce lover · 01-10-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Topher5150

that sounds easy enough, I might just use a ratchet and work it loose first. Was the speed-o cable threaded into the assy?

No cable connected.You will see the square opening for the cable end.First carefully try to free it up with a small flat screwdriver tip using some 3 in 1 oil or equivalent.I do it on the bench

Topher5150 · 01-10-2018, 06:29 PM

Here's some better pics

cas3 · 01-10-2018, 06:54 PM

be very careful about touching the odometer wheels, the old silkscreen flakes off quite easy

Topher5150 · 01-11-2018, 02:53 PM

I wonder if soaking that end in vinegar will help speed things along

bobwellsnoveltyshop · 01-11-2018, 04:06 PM

I use Gumout carb. cleaner with the straw in the nozzle and spray into the square end to clean out what appears to be grease and crud from the pictures, also make sure the spring is not broken on the shaft where the speedo needle attaches, picture shows something around that area. But that may not free up the movement, the inner gears may need also cleaned and lubricated if it is stuck.
BILL WELLS

34 GAZ · 01-11-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Topher5150

I wonder if soaking that end in vinegar will help speed things along

Vinegar and that old greyish potmetal don,t get along. Disolves.

Topher5150 · 01-11-2018, 07:53 PM

It didn't look like there was to much iron in there, probably should take it out now

bobwellsnoveltyshop · 01-11-2018, 08:11 PM

Here is a 47 I just finished cleaning and lubricating, the speedometer by the way is a King Seeley. I show the gears out and there is a lubricating hole at the top, take out the plug and wick and lube it there too.
BILL WELLS

SofaKing · 01-12-2018, 08:55 AM

You will probably find the last cable end broken-off in the hole. Once it is cleaned and lubricated you can spin the input shaft with your fingers and the needle will move.

estout81 · 01-12-2018, 11:38 AM

How does a person contact Bob Wells Novelty shop?

cas3 · 01-12-2018, 12:22 PM

you click on the name, and then send him a message!

bobwellsnoveltyshop · 01-12-2018, 12:56 PM

Here is my email. For bobwellsnoveltyshop
[email protected]
BILL WELLS

Dj1white87 · 05-02-2018, 06:23 PM

If I may add to your thread with a similar issue. I have a 51 Ford Custom. Speedo quit working. I bought new cable, housing, and gear from Dennis Carpenter. Installed, still not working. I removed cable end at speedo and it is turning. I removed speedo. Cut end of old speedo cable off and inserted into drill. Tested, and speedo worked great. I feel the problem is the cable tip is not extending far enough into speedo to engage properly. Trying to avoid the rebuild if not necessary. Any suggestions appreciated.

fordor41 · 05-02-2018, 10:30 PM

I use a universal cable from an auto parts store. careful measurement and you can get the length correct. also I don't crimp the end on, I epoxy it on. I get a straighter alignment between end and cable. takes vibration out of speedo. Mine has been in my speedo for 12-15 yrs.

01-09-2018, 10:42 PM	#2
fordwife Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 287	Re: saving my speed o It shouldn't be a problem. Clean it up and lube the shaft and gears with light oil. If it isn't stuck it should be okay.

01-10-2018, 12:43 AM	#3
Vintage Copper 47 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: The sleepy San Fernando Valley Posts: 394	Re: saving my speed o Also check the turtle gear at the transmission... when I had my trans rebuilt last Nov, I replaced the cable & turtle gear (worn,chipped)... It works perfect now! .... __________________ WALT "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". "Old enough for the experience & too young to know better"

01-10-2018, 06:54 AM	#5
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,306	Re: saving my speed o I use a cordless drill slowly in reverse with a square drive bit(the size that fits in the cable opening)

01-10-2018, 08:07 AM	#6
Topher5150 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grandville, MI Posts: 280	Re: saving my speed o Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) that sounds easy enough, I might just use a ratchet and work it loose first. Was the speed-o cable threaded into the assy?

01-10-2018, 08:22 AM	#7
fordwife Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 287	Re: saving my speed o The cable itself pushes into the shaft, the nut on the cable housing threads into the speedometer body.

01-10-2018, 06:54 PM	#10
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,572	Re: saving my speed o be very careful about touching the odometer wheels, the old silkscreen flakes off quite easy

01-11-2018, 02:53 PM	#11
Topher5150 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grandville, MI Posts: 280	Re: saving my speed o I wonder if soaking that end in vinegar will help speed things along

01-11-2018, 04:06 PM	#12
bobwellsnoveltyshop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 779	Re: saving my speed o I use Gumout carb. cleaner with the straw in the nozzle and spray into the square end to clean out what appears to be grease and crud from the pictures, also make sure the spring is not broken on the shaft where the speedo needle attaches, picture shows something around that area. But that may not free up the movement, the inner gears may need also cleaned and lubricated if it is stuck. BILL WELLS

01-11-2018, 07:53 PM	#14
Topher5150 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grandville, MI Posts: 280	Re: saving my speed o It didn't look like there was to much iron in there, probably should take it out now

01-12-2018, 08:55 AM	#16
SofaKing Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 756	Re: saving my speed o You will probably find the last cable end broken-off in the hole. Once it is cleaned and lubricated you can spin the input shaft with your fingers and the needle will move.

01-12-2018, 11:38 AM	#17
estout81 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Utica, Ohio Posts: 522	Re: saving my speed o How does a person contact Bob Wells Novelty shop?

01-12-2018, 12:22 PM	#18
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,572	Re: saving my speed o you click on the name, and then send him a message!

01-12-2018, 12:56 PM	#19
bobwellsnoveltyshop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 779	Re: saving my speed o Here is my email. For bobwellsnoveltyshop [email protected] BILL WELLS

05-02-2018, 06:23 PM	#20
Dj1white87 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 1	Re: saving my speed o If I may add to your thread with a similar issue. I have a 51 Ford Custom. Speedo quit working. I bought new cable, housing, and gear from Dennis Carpenter. Installed, still not working. I removed cable end at speedo and it is turning. I removed speedo. Cut end of old speedo cable off and inserted into drill. Tested, and speedo worked great. I feel the problem is the cable tip is not extending far enough into speedo to engage properly. Trying to avoid the rebuild if not necessary. Any suggestions appreciated.

05-02-2018, 10:30 PM	#21
fordor41 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: elmira,ny Posts: 1,517	Re: saving my speed o I use a universal cable from an auto parts store. careful measurement and you can get the length correct. also I don't crimp the end on, I epoxy it on. I get a straighter alignment between end and cable. takes vibration out of speedo. Mine has been in my speedo for 12-15 yrs.