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Old 09-28-2021, 05:27 PM   #1
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Just had my roller bearings fail - where can I get a good quality set unlike the problematic offshore ones?
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Old 09-28-2021, 07:14 PM   #2
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i think if you can find some original ones in good condition. but i took 6 transmissions apart just to get 3 good bearings.
i would like to know what you come up with in your search.

someone should write a book on good and bad, use/don't use parts and the places to source the good stuff. on all different types of parts.

i am a believer that not all off shore parts are junk, but is always a gamble. the suppliers get in junk and try to sell it as quality and now we just have this bad taste in our mouths.

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When this first came to light a while back Bert's had some of the good ones. I have a set in my 'spare' transmission, but I'm sure Steve is long out of them by now. You may check tho.

I wonder what Steve Mitchell is using in his synchro transmissions??
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When this first came to light a while back Bert's had some of the good ones. I have a set in my 'spare' transmission, but I'm sure Steve is long out of them by now. You may check tho.

I wonder what Steve Mitchell is using in his synchro transmissions??
I just ordered a Mitchell syncro trans last week and asked Steve what he is using. He informed me that Snyder's is currently having bearings produced here in the States. Those are what Mitchell is using.
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Well now I think it is the rear end or u joint, but I do still want to know this.
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The only way you can get some reliable roller bearings for a Model A transmission is to salvage them out of a Model A transmission that has serviceable bearings in them. Pick them up at swap meets. None of the suppliers seem to be able to do anything about this situation.

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The only way you can get some reliable roller bearings for a Model A transmission is to salvage them out of a Model A transmission that has serviceable bearings in them. Pick them up at swap meets. None of the suppliers seem to be able to do anything about this situation.

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A while back, it was impossible to get a decent tube. I won't blame the Chinese because no matter where they were made, they were rubbish made out of recycled materials. IMO, the ones made in Europe were the worst. I think it was Brattons who had some made from virgin materials and they were good. They did quite nicely out of them till others found they couldn't sell their rubbish so they started supplying better ones. Let's hope the same thing happens with these bearings and a few other notoriously poor repro parts.
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What is the min / max price the market will bear for these bearings? I have a machinist who could produce these in quantity. What is the Rockwell hardness necessary?
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When this first came to light a while back Bert's had some of the good ones. I have a set in my 'spare' transmission, but I'm sure Steve is long out of them by now. You may check tho.

I wonder what Steve Mitchell is using in his synchro transmissions??
He's out. I called a year ago and he didn't have them any longer, can't find any more.
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What is the min / max price the market will bear for these bearings? I have a machinist who could produce these in quantity. What is the Rockwell hardness necessary?
Russ, I think Bert's was asking $20 each when I bought them. I would probably have paid more to get my car back on the road and have the peace of mind my transmission that I just installed ~$800 worth of parts in would hold together.

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He's out. I called a year ago and he didn't have them any longer, can't find any more.
DANG!!! Was it that long ago already!!
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Old 09-29-2021, 02:56 PM   #11
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How did you discover the roller bearings were going bad?
Grinding? Shifting problems? Noise? I'm having sudden issues with grinding while shifting into second and into third at about 25,000 miles after a rebuild.
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How did you discover the roller bearings were going bad?
Grinding? Shifting problems? Noise? I'm having sudden issues with grinding while shifting into second and into third at about 25,000 miles after a rebuild.
As I said in an earlier post, it has turned out to be the rear end so I can't really answer that question. Something in the back of the drive train can amazingly sound like it is in the trans.
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Sometimes you have to read the whole thread as well!
See post 4
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Looks like a Chinese one to me by the price.
I'd do my own research on that ...
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:41 AM   #15
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Another person to check with is Mac at VanPelt Sales. The model A transmission roller bearing types were carried over into the V8 era light duty 3-speed transmissions under part numbers B-7118-A and B-7121-A for those folks that may need them.

Mr. VanPelt's business is transmissions and I'm sure he would steer a person toward the best possible replacement parts for these bearings. He may not work on a lot of model A gear boxes but he likely does now and then. If nothing else, a good set may be found in a later Ford light duty 3-speed transmission as well.
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