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29 model-a · 12-01-2016, 07:10 PM

First I dont know how to explain this, Im in the process of installing my top wood kit in my 29 ccup. having trouble with the right side above the door, it doesnt want to sit down on top of the cab corner.at the very back its about 3/8" from touching. Left side fits perfect, what do I look for first?? thanks in adance Pete

700rpm · 12-01-2016, 08:46 PM

Coupe or truck? Photos always help.

29 model-a · 12-01-2016, 09:28 PM

sorry closed cab truck

Dan Partain · 12-02-2016, 02:15 AM

There is a mortise and tenon at the top of the door jam where it and the door header piece meet. Make sure that joint is tight and the header piece all the way down on the door jam piece and seated.

Other things that come to mind:

1. A bent or sagging frame member on the passenger side.
2. A bent subframe on that side of the body that causes the door jam wood to be too high, or the rear of the cab to sag. The subframe could be bent anywhere between the cowl and the rear of the cab.
3. Body blocks that are missing, the wrong thickness, or too many/not enough rubber shims. Loosen all of the cab bolts, you will probably need to do this anyway to adjust the doors in the openings.
4. Compare measurements from the side that is ok to the side with problems.

Here's some previous info about adjusting the doors that may help -
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...oor+adjustment

29 model-a · 12-02-2016, 08:53 AM

I didnt mention that Im restoring this truck and the doors are not on,Ive fixed the sub frame from rust, it appears to be straight. Do I remove the cab from the frame? place it on a flat surface and go from there??

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-02-2016, 10:11 AM

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Buster T.

Dan Partain · 12-02-2016, 11:43 AM

Putting the cab on a flat surface won't really do you any good. Ultimately you will need to do your alignment with the cab on the frame.

I suggest that you make sure your frame is straight before you do anything else. There's plenty of info on fordbarn regarding getting the frame straight.

If your sub frame was damaged with rust and repaired it could be the problem, and you may not really be able to tell by just looking at it.

You will have to have the doors on to get a proper alignment of the cab.

Take a look at the link in my previous post for info about the doors and aligning the cab.

700rpm · 12-02-2016, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29 model-a

sorry closed cab truck

My bad. I misread ccpu as coupe.

29 model-a · 12-02-2016, 12:54 PM

Thanks Dan much help, this will keep me moving forward.

1955cj5 · 12-02-2016, 12:54 PM

There are blocks between the cab and the frame...make sure they are all in place and the right dimension...I think Les Andrews' book shows the locations.

The picture shows the block under the cab corner on the driver's (LHD) side and also the next block forward.

29 model-a · 12-02-2016, 01:00 PM

Thank you 1955cj5, ill have to look it up cause Im thinking I neverput blocks in

1955cj5 · 12-02-2016, 01:08 PM

Bratton's and other suppliers have the blocks.

https://www.brattons.com/28-29-pick-up-body-blocks.html

You are welcome!

Randy

12-01-2016, 07:10 PM	#1
29 model-a Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iron River Wi Posts: 172	29 truck top wood ?? First I dont know how to explain this, Im in the process of installing my top wood kit in my 29 ccup. having trouble with the right side above the door, it doesnt want to sit down on top of the cab corner.at the very back its about 3/8" from touching. Left side fits perfect, what do I look for first?? thanks in adance Pete

12-01-2016, 08:46 PM	#2
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,902	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Coupe or truck? Photos always help. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

12-01-2016, 09:28 PM	#3
29 model-a Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iron River Wi Posts: 172	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? sorry closed cab truck

12-02-2016, 02:15 AM	#4
Dan Partain Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 556	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? There is a mortise and tenon at the top of the door jam where it and the door header piece meet. Make sure that joint is tight and the header piece all the way down on the door jam piece and seated. Other things that come to mind: 1. A bent or sagging frame member on the passenger side. 2. A bent subframe on that side of the body that causes the door jam wood to be too high, or the rear of the cab to sag. The subframe could be bent anywhere between the cowl and the rear of the cab. 3. Body blocks that are missing, the wrong thickness, or too many/not enough rubber shims. Loosen all of the cab bolts, you will probably need to do this anyway to adjust the doors in the openings. 4. Compare measurements from the side that is ok to the side with problems. Here's some previous info about adjusting the doors that may help - https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...oor+adjustment

12-02-2016, 08:53 AM	#5
29 model-a Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iron River Wi Posts: 172	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? I didnt mention that Im restoring this truck and the doors are not on,Ive fixed the sub frame from rust, it appears to be straight. Do I remove the cab from the frame? place it on a flat surface and go from there??

12-02-2016, 10:11 AM	#6
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Dog here, I'd jist wrap one uf those ratcheting nylon straps around the cab & pull thet dude into SUBMISSION---BUT, whut do I know??? I'm jist a Dog Buster T. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-02-2016, 11:43 AM	#7
Dan Partain Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 556	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Putting the cab on a flat surface won't really do you any good. Ultimately you will need to do your alignment with the cab on the frame. I suggest that you make sure your frame is straight before you do anything else. There's plenty of info on fordbarn regarding getting the frame straight. If your sub frame was damaged with rust and repaired it could be the problem, and you may not really be able to tell by just looking at it. You will have to have the doors on to get a proper alignment of the cab. Take a look at the link in my previous post for info about the doors and aligning the cab.

12-02-2016, 12:54 PM	#9
29 model-a Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iron River Wi Posts: 172	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Thanks Dan much help, this will keep me moving forward.

12-02-2016, 01:00 PM	#11
29 model-a Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Iron River Wi Posts: 172	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Thank you 1955cj5, ill have to look it up cause Im thinking I neverput blocks in

12-02-2016, 01:08 PM	#12
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: 29 truck top wood ?? Bratton's and other suppliers have the blocks. https://www.brattons.com/28-29-pick-up-body-blocks.html You are welcome! Randy __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62