The Ford Barn

P.S. · 02-18-2016, 06:46 PM

This poor Tudor sedan...... https://youtu.be/QqqD5ldA_6g (Warning- turn the speakers down first).

I'm speechless.

Mitch//pa · 02-18-2016, 07:09 PM

Paul thanks for posting:; that's a nice way to preserve patina and I think he got it into 3rd gear without grinding

Y-Blockhead · 02-18-2016, 07:52 PM

Interesting.. I think it would look better if they added some flattener to the paint so it wasn't so shiney tho.

FrankWest · 02-18-2016, 07:54 PM

Like a permanent Gibbs Oil coating. I assume original paint under the clear, right. The clear coating will darken and crack due to UV radiation? I think you will better protect the original paint with the Gibbs oil, right?

Marvin/TN · 02-18-2016, 08:18 PM

Most clears today have UV screens and absorbers in them but they can fail in time if the proper amount of clear coat isn't applied.

FrankWest · 02-18-2016, 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Interesting.. I think it would look better if they added some flattener to the paint so it wasn't so shiney tho.

the Gibbs oil is far less shiney, but it is interesting.. anything to keep the original paint.

mshmodela · 02-18-2016, 09:12 PM

Gee I feel bad for that car.. Like a dog that had nasty owner...

Tinbasher · 02-18-2016, 09:16 PM

So somebody got carried away with grey and black spray bombs and clear coated it.

Everyone has a dream, some are nightmares!!

John Poole

bdave_mcc · 02-18-2016, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinbasher

So somebody got carried away with grey and black spray bombs and clear coated it.

Everyone has a dream, some are nightmares!!

John Poole

hahaha yep, fake patina

montanafordman · 02-19-2016, 01:58 AM

Looks like another tacky/bad idea like I might envision seeing on Gas Monkey garage. fake patina on panels that are far to straight to have that kind of look/patina - but far too rough and distressed to be that glossy at the same time. Interesting. Just not my cup of tea.

I have yet to see a Model A with a more beautiful and authentic patina than Crosscut's AA. Every time I see that truck my jaw drops.

ronn · 02-19-2016, 06:32 AM

I use satin varnish to avoid the shine, but to have a bit of sheen.

jw hash · 02-19-2016, 08:31 AM

it would look better if it was over original paint. the fenders or bodies never had grey primer on them. and the fenders never had red primer originally. I also noticed that it is a Canadian, just maybe they did things a little different up there. A, only joking on that one.

FrankWest · 02-19-2016, 09:09 AM

My opinion is that there are only 2 possible car finishes for an antique car.
1) Original Paint...even if worn badly still can look nice and very interesting..because it is original. Kind of like an old clock face, worn but shows the effects of time and it make its own statement about the passage of time.
2) a Car with no original paint left, no primer left or body work too.
This type of car should be professional painted with the best you can afford.
And the results can be astounding..It can look show room fresh.
A new paint job should never be artificial stressed to look tattered and old.. because this is SCHLOCK at its best.
These are Only the opinions of one OLD Man.

Tony Martino · 02-19-2016, 10:13 AM

This is what 87 years really looks like.
You can't paint it on.

captndan · 02-19-2016, 12:03 PM

Looks like the floor shine and much cheaper.

FrankWest · 02-19-2016, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Martino

This is what 87 years really looks like.
You can't paint it on.

nice

mshmodela · 02-19-2016, 12:59 PM

Frank nice photos... would like to see more please

Bruce of MN · 02-19-2016, 02:18 PM

Too bad the license plate bracket is crooked. What else is half-a$$ed?

BILL WILLIAMSON · 02-19-2016, 02:56 PM

Paul,
Thank you for posting that car, SUPERB! It even BOUNCED to the music beat.
NOW, that's a REAL WORLD MODEL A, with its' HISTORY showing.
I just moved my HUGE Steamer Trunk in, to use for a JET-FUEL COFFEE table. I "think"??? it was made in Ireland, came to N.Y, then by TRAIN & WAGON TRAIN, to Kalifornia!!---For a slight fee, we'll "create" a "history" of your Model A.
Bill W.

1Tudoor · 02-19-2016, 03:01 PM

My 31 tudoor--hand rubbed black lacquer

Mitch//pa · 02-19-2016, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Tudoor

My 31 tudoor--hand rubbed black lacquer

Very nice. How old is the paint?

1Tudoor · 02-19-2016, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Very nice. How old is the paint?

About 10 yrs but no cracks yet

Just purchased this last yr--motor was seized from sitting , batt in backwards , LOTS of problems but a beautiful paint job which I finally got to & rubbed it out after correcting mech & elec problems--runs great !

Barry B./ Ma. · 02-19-2016, 04:41 PM

I wish they wouldn't use 28/29 light bars on 30/31s, they raise the headlights too much and just don't look right.

CarlG · 02-19-2016, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry B./ Ma.

I wish they wouldn't use 28/29 light bars on 30/31s, they raise the headlights too much and just don't look right.

My '31 Pickup had a 28/29 light bar on it when I bought it. You are absolutely correct when you say they "just don't look right". Not sure how much higher it raises the headlights (probably only a couple of inches anyway), but it really looks better with the correct light bar on it.

1crosscut · 02-20-2016, 07:29 AM

I would agree that the "old" paint job under a clear coat in the video is a wee bit over the top. I have always liked them original. Although I do appreciate the skill that goes into a fine restoration and a high quality paint job.
For shining up the original ones I think Johnson's Paste Wax is something that one might consider. With quite a bit of elbow grease it worked rather well for me.
The truck being pulled out of the barn with my dad supervising and a picture from last fall in my front yard. This young lady saw my truck and asked if she could have her graduation pictures taken with it. Of course I said yes.

Tom Wesenberg · 02-20-2016, 09:39 AM

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Now that's an amazing transformation on your truck.

Rene R · 02-20-2016, 12:03 PM

That clear coated Tudor looks ridiculous. Ugh.

But Dave's truck is a whole different story. Wow, that looks great. And I'm glad that a young woman would want to have it in her graduation pictures. Maybe there is hope for the future.

P.S. · 02-20-2016, 04:20 PM

Dave truck looks STUNNING!!! Well done!

I have a 29 Fordor with original paint, interior, etc. Used DriWash-N-Guard on the paint, and it looks similar to Dave's truck. Everyone always goes crazy over how it looks. But, you have to clean it often, otherwise it just looks crummy.

If the Tudor in the link above had original paint under all that thick clearcoat, that would be one thing. However, it is pretty obvious that the 'patina' is fake, then lathered clear on top. They even clear coated over the rust in the corners of the doors that is eating away the metal.

02-18-2016, 06:46 PM	#1
P.S. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,688	The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! This poor Tudor sedan...... https://youtu.be/QqqD5ldA_6g (Warning- turn the speakers down first). I'm speechless.

02-18-2016, 07:09 PM	#2
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Paul thanks for posting:; that's a nice way to preserve patina and I think he got it into 3rd gear without grinding Last edited by Mitch//pa; 02-18-2016 at 07:54 PM.

02-18-2016, 07:52 PM	#3
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,848	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Interesting.. I think it would look better if they added some flattener to the paint so it wasn't so shiney tho.

02-18-2016, 07:54 PM	#4
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Like a permanent Gibbs Oil coating. I assume original paint under the clear, right. The clear coating will darken and crack due to UV radiation? I think you will better protect the original paint with the Gibbs oil, right?

02-18-2016, 08:18 PM	#5
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Most clears today have UV screens and absorbers in them but they can fail in time if the proper amount of clear coat isn't applied.

02-18-2016, 09:12 PM	#7
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Gee I feel bad for that car.. Like a dog that had nasty owner... __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

02-18-2016, 09:16 PM	#8
Tinbasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada Posts: 1,174	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! So somebody got carried away with grey and black spray bombs and clear coated it. Everyone has a dream, some are nightmares!! John Poole

02-19-2016, 01:58 AM	#10
montanafordman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Meridian, ID Posts: 568	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Looks like another tacky/bad idea like I might envision seeing on Gas Monkey garage. fake patina on panels that are far to straight to have that kind of look/patina - but far too rough and distressed to be that glossy at the same time. Interesting. Just not my cup of tea. I have yet to see a Model A with a more beautiful and authentic patina than Crosscut's AA. Every time I see that truck my jaw drops. __________________ Aaron in Tacoma (although still a Montana hillbilly at heart )

02-19-2016, 06:32 AM	#11
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,785	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! I use satin varnish to avoid the shine, but to have a bit of sheen.

02-19-2016, 08:31 AM	#12
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! it would look better if it was over original paint. the fenders or bodies never had grey primer on them. and the fenders never had red primer originally. I also noticed that it is a Canadian, just maybe they did things a little different up there. A, only joking on that one.

02-19-2016, 09:09 AM	#13
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! My opinion is that there are only 2 possible car finishes for an antique car. 1) Original Paint...even if worn badly still can look nice and very interesting..because it is original. Kind of like an old clock face, worn but shows the effects of time and it make its own statement about the passage of time. 2) a Car with no original paint left, no primer left or body work too. This type of car should be professional painted with the best you can afford. And the results can be astounding..It can look show room fresh. A new paint job should never be artificial stressed to look tattered and old.. because this is SCHLOCK at its best. These are Only the opinions of one OLD Man.

02-19-2016, 12:03 PM	#15
captndan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Tennessee Posts: 714	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Looks like the floor shine and much cheaper.

02-19-2016, 12:59 PM	#17
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Frank nice photos... would like to see more please __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

02-19-2016, 02:18 PM	#18
Bruce of MN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: VA Posts: 1,410	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Too bad the license plate bracket is crooked. What else is half-a$$ed?

02-19-2016, 02:56 PM	#19
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Paul, Thank you for posting that car, SUPERB! It even BOUNCED to the music beat. NOW, that's a REAL WORLD MODEL A, with its' HISTORY showing. I just moved my HUGE Steamer Trunk in, to use for a JET-FUEL COFFEE table. I "think"??? it was made in Ireland, came to N.Y, then by TRAIN & WAGON TRAIN, to Kalifornia!!---For a slight fee, we'll "create" a "history" of your Model A. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

02-19-2016, 04:41 PM	#23
Barry B./ Ma. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southbridge, Ma. Posts: 1,614	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! I wish they wouldn't use 28/29 light bars on 30/31s, they raise the headlights too much and just don't look right.

02-20-2016, 09:39 AM	#26
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Now that's an amazing transformation on your truck.

02-20-2016, 12:03 PM	#27
Rene R Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 77	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! That clear coated Tudor looks ridiculous. Ugh. But Dave's truck is a whole different story. Wow, that looks great. And I'm glad that a young woman would want to have it in her graduation pictures. Maybe there is hope for the future.

02-20-2016, 04:20 PM	#28
P.S. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,688	Re: The only color paint you will ever need for your Model A is... Clear!! Dave truck looks STUNNING!!! Well done! I have a 29 Fordor with original paint, interior, etc. Used DriWash-N-Guard on the paint, and it looks similar to Dave's truck. Everyone always goes crazy over how it looks. But, you have to clean it often, otherwise it just looks crummy. If the Tudor in the link above had original paint under all that thick clearcoat, that would be one thing. However, it is pretty obvious that the 'patina' is fake, then lathered clear on top. They even clear coated over the rust in the corners of the doors that is eating away the metal.