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Old 03-31-2019, 09:05 PM   #1
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Question How do you load a non-running A onto a trailer without damaging it

On most Model Ts you can put a strap around the front cross-member...not on a Model A so how do you load a non-running A onto the trailer without causing damage?
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:27 PM   #2
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Remove the bumper- git it outta yur way. Hook straps or chain to the axel -AT HE CONNECTION OF THE WHISBONE/SPRING PERCHES. one on each side to make a "Y" harness. Hook harness to cable or strap and use a wench (hand operated or electric) and wench that sucker onto the trailer.



I have a hand crank boat wench bolted to the front rail of my car hauler trailer. Used it many times. kenp
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:40 PM   #3
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What he said!
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:50 PM   #4
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:52 AM   #5
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Whatever you do, don't pull on the front axle just from the center point. We have a number of axles at the museum that are quite distorted, bent to a point, from pulling the center.
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:59 PM   #6
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What Kenparker said OR push it in..............
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:33 PM   #7
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When I bought mine from RI to FL I got 4 husky friends and they rolled it up on my trailer without a problem.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:23 PM   #8
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that will work
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Old 04-02-2019, 09:52 AM   #9
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I have done similar to post 2 . Pushing sedans by the rear body panel is very risky . The rear body is fairly easy to bend and can be hell to straighten if it gets bent near the moldings . When pushing by hand it is best to push by the rear bumper . My trailer is low to the ground and is not too much of an up hill push or pull .
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:05 AM   #10
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In the past i have put a good battery in it and used the starter while the car is in first gear. the starter will pull it up the ramp and on the trailer!!!
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Old 04-02-2019, 10:16 AM   #11
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I fail to see how pulling a Model A up a ramp onto a trailer by attaching a chain or strap onto the middle of the front axle can bend the axle unless the wheels aren't turning. The axles aren't that soft. Trying to pull a Model A out of a bad "stuck' is a different scenario.
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:13 AM   #12
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When done like Ken Parker says in post number 2 , it puts the strain on the spring perches and wishbone rather than the center of the front axle . The distance between the spring perches adds bad leverage against the center of the front axle when the car is pulled by the center of the axle . Model A front axles are not that difficult to bend . There is really no telling what strains that these 90 year old axles have been subjected to in the past . Most model A front axles are probably already bent and the owner usually doesn't even know it . In nearly 60 years of model A ownership and maintenance , I have only found maybe three model A front axles that wasn't bent to some degree .
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:15 PM   #13
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In the past i have put a good battery in it and used the starter while the car is in first gear. the starter will pull it up the ramp and on the trailer!!!


I can see how that would work - no possible issues damaging the starter/ bendix/flywheel gear due to heavy load?
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:49 PM   #14
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Old 04-02-2019, 01:57 PM   #15
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I fail to see how pulling a Model A up a ramp onto a trailer by attaching a chain or strap onto the middle of the front axle can bend the axle unless the wheels aren't turning. The axles aren't that soft. Trying to pull a Model A out of a bad "stuck' is a different scenario.

Agreed

I load & unload with an electric winch on an upgrade using gravity
to keep the vehicle from rolling freely inside the trailer.

Nothing wrong with attaching an axle strap to the front axle
of a Model A or Model T to load it in a trailer.

There were axles bent new coming out of the factory.

There were axles bent in car accidents.

There were axles bent from towing cars long distances.

There were axles bent from pulling out tree stumps & fence posts.

You don’t bend an axle pulling a vehicle that is in neutral
in and out of a trailer.


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Old 04-02-2019, 04:02 PM   #16
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In the past i have put a good battery in it and used the starter while the car is in first gear. the starter will pull it up the ramp and on the trailer!!!


I learned about the power of the model A starter many years ago .When I first tried it I used low gear . It seamed to me that low gear would be the best gear choice and be easier on the old starter . Uncle Ray said no , High gear was the best .. Third gear is like direct drive and that is all that is needed with an electric motor. You might be surprised how quickly the model A will take off and go on the starter in high gear . Even quicker if you have a twelve volt upgrade and a 3.54 gear ratio .
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Old 04-03-2019, 09:17 AM   #17
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Trulyvintage, thanks for vindicating my reply.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:45 PM   #18
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The answer for the ORIGNAL question is: VERY CAREFULLY!!!----LOL
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