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Viv W · 01-17-2018, 04:03 AM

Hi All,
My rear service brake and emergency brake rods are missing, can someone please post some pictures of the rods where they connect to the rear brake toggle lever and give me the lengths of these 2 rods, so that I can make new ones.
I assume the front of these 2 rods are connected by clevis's, but the rear not sure of.
Many thanks
Viv.

AlexLohmann1 · 01-17-2018, 05:08 AM

See if this is what you are looking for. If you give me some time today I'll if friends of mine have any available for sale.

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AlexLohmann1 · 01-17-2018, 05:11 AM

Then you will have what actually went on the car instead of some modified setup from the auto parts store.

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4 MAINS V8 · 01-17-2018, 08:47 AM

Ref. last post. If you car? Is RHD with separate brake and handbrake rods, you will have a different set up and a separate handbrake relay.Can post photos if needed.

AlexLohmann1 · 01-17-2018, 08:49 AM

My apologies, didn't even check where original poster is from..

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DavidG · 01-17-2018, 09:37 AM

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While not all RHD cars had the separate rods in the rear for the hand brake, Viv's question suggests that in his case he has the double cross shaft and a six rod system (two front and four rear).

AlexLohmann1 · 01-17-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG

While not all RHD cars had the separate rods in the rear for the hand brake, Viv's question suggests that in his case he has the double cross shaft and a six rod system (two front and four rear).

Thanks DavidG!

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flatheadmurre · 01-17-2018, 10:16 AM

We have the same system on cars that was sold original in sweden.
So must be some regulation about separate emergency brake system rather then LHD/RHD.

DavidG · 01-17-2018, 12:20 PM

It varied by country in response to local regulations. Some LHD countries also required a double cross shaft, six rod system, such as France, for example. The photo below shows a display chassis in Paris in 1932 with such a system.

JM 35 Sedan · 01-17-2018, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viv W

Hi All,
My rear service brake and emergency brake rods are missing, can someone please post some pictures of the rods where they connect to the rear brake toggle lever and give me the lengths of these 2 rods, so that I can make new ones.
I assume the front of these 2 rods are connected by clevis's, but the rear not sure of.
Many thanks
Viv.

Viv, can you clarify if your car would have two or four rear brake rods.

deuce lover · 01-17-2018, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG

It varied by country in response to local regulations. Some LHD countries also required a double cross shaft, six rod system, such as France, for example. The photo below shows a display chassis in Paris in 1932 with such a system.

To ad to David's post is this original French 4cyl chassis in a barn nearby me.

35fordtn · 01-17-2018, 04:06 PM

As others above me have mentioned, your car could possibly have 4 rear rods. Having recently been through this issue with someone from France with a 1935, you can make 4 regular 1935-36 rear rods work. It would the special 2 hole brake rod supports such as the one in the photo.. If I can help I have these special supports and the rods NOS. Hopefully you have the cross shaft assembly. This all assuming yours takes 4 rods.

s-l500 (4).jpg

Don Rogers · 01-17-2018, 06:49 PM

Here is a summary of brake rods used on both LHD and RHD 4 rod and 6 rod systems. This was taken from Canadian Service Bulletins.

35fordtn · 01-17-2018, 07:00 PM

Don thanks for posting that chart!

I imagine the "type 2" rods are impossible to find. What a person can do in this scenario, while not authentic, is cut the normal longer rod to length, thread it and install a 48-2466 clevis.

JM 35 Sedan · 01-18-2018, 01:59 PM

Don, another thanks for that chart. Copied that into my saved info files.

Viv W · 01-18-2018, 04:41 PM

Hi All,
Wow , thanks for all the input, I never realised there were two systems for 1935.
I have studied all the pictures and can confirm my car HAS two cross shafts. The Canadian chart posted by Don Rogers is particularly helpful, as my car is Canadian built. I've studied Don's chart and interestingly both the LHD and RHD rods are the same length.
I would like to confirm that the 48-2466 slotted clevis goes to the rear of the car on the service brake, and the slotted end of the type 2 rod goes to the front of the car??
I will have to make up new rods in Zimbabwe, they are too long to post or courier and would have to be shipped.The cost of shipping the rods from USA would be prohibitive.
I would however be interested in buying 4 clevis's type 48-2466, if anyone has some to spare, please. I have some long Model AA brake rods that I can modify to make up rods.
Many thanks to you all for your inputs, I very much appreciate it.
Best regards
Viv

35fordtn · 01-18-2018, 09:09 PM

Viv,

You would only use the 48-2466 Clevis ends to replicate the slotted ends of the emergency brake rods. The service rods should use the more typical fork type clevis end. I have plenty of each and would be happy to donate them to your cause.

VeryTangled · 01-18-2018, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 35fordtn

I have plenty of each and would be happy to donate them to your cause.

Now that's good people!

DavidG · 01-18-2018, 10:14 PM

Michael,

With respect, according to Don's chart, he will require four of the slotted clevises (48-2466) in order to replicate the two type 2 rods and provide for a slotted end on the two 48F2499 rods and two of the type 1 clevises (B-2461) for a complete set of rear rods. It also makes sense as the two sets of rods must operate independently of one another hence each set of two must have slots at one end so that the brake pedal doesn't depress when the hand brake is used and vice versa. It is the same logic that dictates in a normal LHD single cross shaft system that the ends on the pedal rod and the hand brake rod are slotted.

pooch · 01-19-2018, 02:20 AM

Are some people still using mechanical brakes on a 35?

I have 2 mint 35 backing plates with shoes/linings ,perfect lever bushes that I cannot even get $ 20 for.

I even advertised them as being great to put a clock in and hang off the garage wall.

I am about to scrap them.

01-17-2018, 04:03 AM	#1
Viv W Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Harare Zimbabwe Posts: 160	1935 brake rods Hi All, My rear service brake and emergency brake rods are missing, can someone please post some pictures of the rods where they connect to the rear brake toggle lever and give me the lengths of these 2 rods, so that I can make new ones. I assume the front of these 2 rods are connected by clevis's, but the rear not sure of. Many thanks Viv.

01-17-2018, 05:08 AM	#2
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: 1935 brake rods See if this is what you are looking for. If you give me some time today I'll if friends of mine have any available for sale. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

01-17-2018, 05:11 AM	#3
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: 1935 brake rods Then you will have what actually went on the car instead of some modified setup from the auto parts store. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

01-17-2018, 08:47 AM	#4
4 MAINS V8 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: HINCKLEY UK Posts: 51	Re: 1935 brake rods Ref. last post. If you car? Is RHD with separate brake and handbrake rods, you will have a different set up and a separate handbrake relay.Can post photos if needed.

01-17-2018, 08:49 AM	#5
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: 1935 brake rods My apologies, didn't even check where original poster is from.. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

01-17-2018, 09:37 AM	#6
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: 1935 brake rods Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) While not all RHD cars had the separate rods in the rear for the hand brake, Viv's question suggests that in his case he has the double cross shaft and a six rod system (two front and four rear).

01-17-2018, 10:16 AM	#8
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: 1935 brake rods We have the same system on cars that was sold original in sweden. So must be some regulation about separate emergency brake system rather then LHD/RHD.

01-17-2018, 04:06 PM	#12
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: 1935 brake rods As others above me have mentioned, your car could possibly have 4 rear rods. Having recently been through this issue with someone from France with a 1935, you can make 4 regular 1935-36 rear rods work. It would the special 2 hole brake rod supports such as the one in the photo.. If I can help I have these special supports and the rods NOS. Hopefully you have the cross shaft assembly. This all assuming yours takes 4 rods. s-l500 (4).jpg

01-17-2018, 07:00 PM	#14
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: 1935 brake rods Don thanks for posting that chart! I imagine the "type 2" rods are impossible to find. What a person can do in this scenario, while not authentic, is cut the normal longer rod to length, thread it and install a 48-2466 clevis.

01-18-2018, 01:59 PM	#15
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 1935 brake rods Don, another thanks for that chart. Copied that into my saved info files. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

01-18-2018, 04:41 PM	#16
Viv W Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Harare Zimbabwe Posts: 160	Re: 1935 brake rods Hi All, Wow , thanks for all the input, I never realised there were two systems for 1935. I have studied all the pictures and can confirm my car HAS two cross shafts. The Canadian chart posted by Don Rogers is particularly helpful, as my car is Canadian built. I've studied Don's chart and interestingly both the LHD and RHD rods are the same length. I would like to confirm that the 48-2466 slotted clevis goes to the rear of the car on the service brake, and the slotted end of the type 2 rod goes to the front of the car?? I will have to make up new rods in Zimbabwe, they are too long to post or courier and would have to be shipped.The cost of shipping the rods from USA would be prohibitive. I would however be interested in buying 4 clevis's type 48-2466, if anyone has some to spare, please. I have some long Model AA brake rods that I can modify to make up rods. Many thanks to you all for your inputs, I very much appreciate it. Best regards Viv

01-18-2018, 09:09 PM	#17
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: 1935 brake rods Viv, You would only use the 48-2466 Clevis ends to replicate the slotted ends of the emergency brake rods. The service rods should use the more typical fork type clevis end. I have plenty of each and would be happy to donate them to your cause.

01-18-2018, 10:14 PM	#19
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: 1935 brake rods Michael, With respect, according to Don's chart, he will require four of the slotted clevises (48-2466) in order to replicate the two type 2 rods and provide for a slotted end on the two 48F2499 rods and two of the type 1 clevises (B-2461) for a complete set of rear rods. It also makes sense as the two sets of rods must operate independently of one another hence each set of two must have slots at one end so that the brake pedal doesn't depress when the hand brake is used and vice versa. It is the same logic that dictates in a normal LHD single cross shaft system that the ends on the pedal rod and the hand brake rod are slotted.

01-19-2018, 02:20 AM	#20
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: 1935 brake rods Are some people still using mechanical brakes on a 35? I have 2 mint 35 backing plates with shoes/linings ,perfect lever bushes that I cannot even get $ 20 for. I even advertised them as being great to put a clock in and hang off the garage wall. I am about to scrap them.