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Old 11-08-2019, 12:02 PM   #21
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I have one of the "C" shaped tools that was actually from Nissan which I used to install the oil sender unit on the installed 8BA engine in my "51. The top fit the drive on a ratchet and the bottom fit the square section under the oil sender. It was very useful.

On the oil filter, I do sort of wish that I hadn't decided to use it, but...! I'm hoping that this Snap On tool will solve my issue. Well, that and a bit of the necessary math.
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Old 11-09-2019, 02:18 PM   #22
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This and a bit of math as needed and the issue is solved. Just wanted to provide follow-up. Thanks everyone.
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:39 PM   #23
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Part #: 32-23817-1 at Macs Auto Parts. Is a pic of what I was thinking or something similar. Used them on FE engines to retorque head bolts without removing rocker arm shafts.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:53 AM   #24
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Interesting. Please explain with more details. I know there are lots of folks who don't use a filter.
If you look at Post No. 13, first pix from the angle that that pix was shot that is where to saw it off from. I removed the fuel pump and f.p. stand, then removed the carb. then with a saws-all we sawed the filter brt. off.\
I see this car does not have 8BA heads and thermostat housing are in the

middle of head. That might be a problem getting the blade down low on the brt.? After cutting it off I filed the edge with a file and then painted the edge to keep it from rusting. The brt. cut much better than expected. Remove a couple of plugs also. Cover the holes.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:30 PM   #25
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This and a bit of math as needed and the issue is solved. Just wanted to provide follow-up. Thanks everyone.

It looks to me like if you use that wrench in the configuration shown in the third image down, in the right hand column in JSeery's chart, there should be NO math involved. DD


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Old 11-12-2019, 06:32 PM   #26
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That's my plan. I've been sidetracked for a bit, We'll see Thanks for the information.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:49 PM   #27
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>>>Does anyone have a suggestion on how to torque the heads bolts which hold the filter is in place?>>>


I think it's more important to torque in proper sequence than worrying too much about ft-lbs applied. Preferrably use a torque wrench where possible. About 45-50 ft lbs on iron heads. Maybe as much a 40 on aluminum. But use your own feel or judgment for torque applied with any kind of wrench that'll reach where the torque wrench can't. Torque isn't an exact science. Depends on thread count, lubed/dry lubed, etc. Just don't over do it. Jack E/NJ
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:48 AM   #28
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>>>Does anyone have a suggestion on how to torque the heads bolts which hold the filter is in place?>>>


I think it's more important to torque in proper sequence than worrying too much about ft-lbs applied. Preferrably use a torque wrench where possible. About 45-50 ft lbs on iron heads. Maybe as much a 40 on aluminum. But use your own feel or judgment for torque applied with any kind of wrench that'll reach where the torque wrench can't. Torque isn't an exact science. Depends on thread count, lubed/dry lubed, etc. Just don't over do it. Jack E/NJ

Within reason, and depending on how much "wrenching" experience one has, I pretty-much agree with what Jack is saying here. Hell, I can watch a guy (and gals, too) twisting on a wrench and get a pretty good "feel" for how tight the fastener is. DD
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:47 PM   #29
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51 Merc cast iron head torque is 65-70 foot pounds.
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I think over the years a lot of builders have determined that lower headbolt/stud torque values work and there is less distortion to the thin flathead blocks upper surfaces.
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