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12-13-2018, 02:31 PM | #1 |
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Hello. I was advised to get on this forum and introduce myself.
I am retired and just bought an old Model A Ford or Sedan. Problem.....engine is frozen. I have been soaking pistons with mystery oil and ATF. No luck. The car is otherwise nice. Ideas? |
12-13-2018, 02:54 PM | #2 |
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A friend of mine was given a flathead that was seized. he soaked the cylinders with penetrating oil for over a week with no luck. He then put vinegar in the cylinders and the motor turned over by hand (with resistance) the next day.
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12-13-2018, 03:08 PM | #3 |
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How long have you been soaking the cylinders? Are you trying the crank or starter to spin it over? ATF is a good solution but i never mixed it with Marvel mystery oil. Trying mixing the ATF with acetone and get a socket and a breaker bar on the crank pulley nut. That helps to get better movement.
I’ve freed stuck motors that way. Just have patients.
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12-13-2018, 04:26 PM | #4 |
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Yes, been soaking a week. Been jumping on hand crank, and pull/dragged her today. No luck.
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12-13-2018, 04:36 PM | #5 |
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Thanks friend. Going to try your path next. I do have time....I think. Lol
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12-13-2018, 03:15 PM | #6 |
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12-13-2018, 03:29 PM | #7 |
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Welcome to the Barn! How about some Pics?
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12-13-2018, 03:55 PM | #8 |
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Thank you for all the interest to help!
I will continue to pour ATF into the one cylinder that it takes over night to drain out of. The other three seem to drain down in 15 mins or so. I will try conifer next week...lol Thanks guys I pulled the car today...third gear...left skid marks both rear wheels. |
12-13-2018, 04:32 PM | #9 | |
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12-13-2018, 04:47 PM | #10 | |
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As I mention, get some (a lot) penetrating oil on your valves and lifters, cam and bearings. Valve cover should come off now. Is there rust on cylinder walls? Does car roll freely when in neutral. How long has it been since the engine was last started? Picture of engine would help. |
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12-13-2018, 04:59 PM | #11 | |
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I was told engine ran 3 years ago. There is black crud on pistons, but couldn't tell if rust. When I pulled plugs, looked like she had run last couple days. Having trouble finding how to post car pics |
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12-14-2018, 10:41 AM | #12 |
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Here are pictures of engine. I am removing the starter. When it comes out, what do I expect with starter rod? Does it just come out of starter?
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12-13-2018, 04:52 PM | #13 |
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I had a spinal cord trama five years ago. Big jobs are out of my capabilities these days
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12-13-2018, 05:16 PM | #14 |
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Like your sedan Mike
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12-14-2018, 12:56 PM | #15 |
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12-13-2018, 04:12 PM | #16 |
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Give it some time. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Also check other things that could be holding things. Is your Starter stuck, also take off valve cover and check if valves and lifters are free to move. Another place to use MMO. Keep us informed. Enjoy. |
12-13-2018, 04:38 PM | #17 |
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Is the clutch froze up on the flywheel?
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12-13-2018, 05:18 PM | #18 |
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Clutch and trans feel good
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12-13-2018, 05:22 PM | #19 |
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Going to sign off for now. Back later...or tomorrow.
Thanks guys |
12-14-2018, 03:31 PM | #20 |
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I finally have Pictures of my Sedan 1930 Briggs Model A
This right ? LOL OK, many have asked for pics that they might be able to help me with this stuck engine. I am still digging into this machine, and I find she is very much original...wood? Bad seat cover over originals. Look for the wood behind the rear seat. and around window. You guys know better than I, so let me know if what I am seeing is true. |
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