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wrndln · 01-31-2018, 09:54 PM

I need to rivet the floor pan and other parts together on my 29 CCPU. There are a few places that a 3/16" brazier head 7/16" long rivet may not be quite long enough to get a nice waffle peen. I have 7/16" long steel rivets I plan to use for most places, where they are long enough. I can't find any steel 1/2" rivets, not even at Big Flats Rivet Co. I did buy some 1/2" long aluminum brazier head rivets a while back. Does anyone see any problems with using aluminum rivets on steel metal panel in some places that a 7/16" may not be quite long enough. I have heard about dissimilar metal problems, but I don't know if after painting, an aluminum rivet would pose any problems. Any help responses would be appreciated.
Rusty Nelson

SSsssteamer · 02-01-2018, 12:23 AM

Here is where I buy my steel rivets.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-rivets/=1bdivgf

wrndln · 02-01-2018, 09:22 AM

I just checked McMaster-Carr via your link and they don't carry brazier head rivets like used on the floorpans and other places on model A's. I have purchased items from them in the past, but not rivets, since they don't have the right kind.
Rusty Nelson

eystein · 02-01-2018, 09:28 AM

If you are only needing a couple of rivets, why not turn your own on the lathe ?

Will probably take you less time than locating what you are looking for.

wrndln · 02-01-2018, 10:31 AM

eystein,
Unfortunately I don't have a lathe or easy access to one.
Rusty Nelson

California Travieso · 02-01-2018, 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wrndln

eystein,
Unfortunately I don't have a lathe or easy access to one.
Rusty Nelson

Harbor Freight has one of those small table top lathes. Good excuse to buy one.

David Serrano

Oldbluoval · 02-01-2018, 02:19 PM

This company should have ANYTHING you need. Their shipping can get a bit pricey if not getting a bunch. To me, brazier head and truss head are virtually the same.

https://www.rivetsonline.com/

hardtimes · 02-01-2018, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrndln

I need to rivet the floor pan and other parts together on my 29 CCPU. There are a few places that a 3/16" brazier head 7/16" long rivet may not be quite long enough to get a nice waffle peen. I have 7/16" long steel rivets I plan to use for most places, where they are long enough. I can't find any steel 1/2" rivets, not even at Big Flats Rivet Co. I did buy some 1/2" long aluminum brazier head rivets a while back. Does anyone see any problems with using aluminum rivets on steel metal panel in some places that a 7/16" may not be quite long enough. I have heard about dissimilar metal problems, but I don't know if after painting, an aluminum rivet would pose any problems. Any help responses would be appreciated.
Rusty Nelson

Hey Rusty,
I used all aluminum rivets to put all new floor pans in my '30 roadster...dozen years ago. No problems yet ...lasts long, works good

! Painted semi-gloss black.
Must admit that I am a neophyte and also couldn't get rivets and equipment otherwise. I'm not 'fine point' restorer either

!

wrndln · 02-01-2018, 02:39 PM

I think I will use the aluminum rivets in any places that I need a slightly longer rivet than 7/16" which probably is not that many. Thanks for the responses.
Rusty Nelson

Purdy Swoft · 02-01-2018, 04:22 PM

If a person would use a good rivit look alike . The headlight screw rivits work good for me . These screw rivets are for attaching the base plates of the seadlight buckets and they look just like rivets and are stainless steel . they come with lock nuts These screw rivets are on page 85 of Brattons catalog , part number 18280 .You get 12 screw rivits with nuts for $3.95 Most model A vender catalogs have them . I've bought 1/4 galv. carrage bolts by the pound at flee markets . I'm pretty sure some of the name brand bolt and screw companies would have them in different grades of hardness . I like this method of installing floor pans.Nobody is gona be crawling under mine to see the attaching nuts . I usually paint them semigloss or satin black

GPierce · 02-01-2018, 04:59 PM

I have a 48 and 49 Piper airplane. The wing ribs are many pieces of formed aluminum assembled with steel rivets. It’s never been a proble. Thousands of them out there with no problems.

01-31-2018, 09:54 PM	#1
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,164	Riveting floor pans I need to rivet the floor pan and other parts together on my 29 CCPU. There are a few places that a 3/16" brazier head 7/16" long rivet may not be quite long enough to get a nice waffle peen. I have 7/16" long steel rivets I plan to use for most places, where they are long enough. I can't find any steel 1/2" rivets, not even at Big Flats Rivet Co. I did buy some 1/2" long aluminum brazier head rivets a while back. Does anyone see any problems with using aluminum rivets on steel metal panel in some places that a 7/16" may not be quite long enough. I have heard about dissimilar metal problems, but I don't know if after painting, an aluminum rivet would pose any problems. Any help responses would be appreciated. Rusty Nelson

02-01-2018, 12:23 AM	#2
SSsssteamer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sedro-Woolley, WA Posts: 1,023	Re: Riveting floor pans Here is where I buy my steel rivets. https://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-rivets/=1bdivgf

02-01-2018, 09:22 AM	#3
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,164	Re: Riveting floor pans I just checked McMaster-Carr via your link and they don't carry brazier head rivets like used on the floorpans and other places on model A's. I have purchased items from them in the past, but not rivets, since they don't have the right kind. Rusty Nelson

02-01-2018, 09:28 AM	#4
eystein Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 521	Re: Riveting floor pans If you are only needing a couple of rivets, why not turn your own on the lathe ? Will probably take you less time than locating what you are looking for.

02-01-2018, 10:31 AM	#5
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,164	Re: Riveting floor pans eystein, Unfortunately I don't have a lathe or easy access to one. Rusty Nelson

02-01-2018, 02:19 PM	#7
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,371	Re: Riveting floor pans This company should have ANYTHING you need. Their shipping can get a bit pricey if not getting a bunch. To me, brazier head and truss head are virtually the same. https://www.rivetsonline.com/

02-01-2018, 02:39 PM	#9
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,164	Re: Riveting floor pans I think I will use the aluminum rivets in any places that I need a slightly longer rivet than 7/16" which probably is not that many. Thanks for the responses. Rusty Nelson

02-01-2018, 04:22 PM	#10
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Riveting floor pans If a person would use a good rivit look alike . The headlight screw rivits work good for me . These screw rivets are for attaching the base plates of the seadlight buckets and they look just like rivets and are stainless steel . they come with lock nuts These screw rivets are on page 85 of Brattons catalog , part number 18280 .You get 12 screw rivits with nuts for $3.95 Most model A vender catalogs have them . I've bought 1/4 galv. carrage bolts by the pound at flee markets . I'm pretty sure some of the name brand bolt and screw companies would have them in different grades of hardness . I like this method of installing floor pans.Nobody is gona be crawling under mine to see the attaching nuts . I usually paint them semigloss or satin black

02-01-2018, 04:59 PM	#11
GPierce Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Germantown,TN Posts: 516	Re: Riveting floor pans I have a 48 and 49 Piper airplane. The wing ribs are many pieces of formed aluminum assembled with steel rivets. It’s never been a proble. Thousands of them out there with no problems.