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Old 06-29-2015, 08:50 PM   #1
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I started a rebuild on a distributor i just picked up and found a FORD script condenser. Ive rebuilt several but this is the first one ive found like this...pretty cool !
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Does it have the part number of "A-12300" on it?

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Can you post a picture of it?
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I'll look closer for any numbers....not sure i can post a pic...never been able to figure out how ?
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I'll look closer for any numbers....not sure i can post a pic...never been able to figure out how ?
If you send it to me I'll post it.
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What color is it??? Black?????
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I looked through my box of old condensers and found one with script, and a original fiber washer and copper plated screw. It has the script and part number on the body and the tab.
that is great...are you using it or would you consider selling it??
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:06 PM   #8
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In my opinion the script condeser is a later part by ford.
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I have 3-4 nos condensers in fomoco boxes, and a few loose. There are at least 3 different size scripts and part numbers on these. If I get a chance to take some pics I'll post them.
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I have 3-4 nos condensers in fomoco boxes, and a few loose. There are at least 3 different size scripts and part numbers on these. If I get a chance to take some pics I'll post them.
Did one of the condensers have the part number on the condenser body itself rather the tab?

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Hope you can see this...it's my first try at adding a photo. It has Ford on front and back of the tab with the number 95
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Did one of the condensers have the part number on the condenser body itself rather the tab?

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If I remember correctly, there are a few like the one pictured in post 7, i can't remember off the top of my head the differences, will try to dig them out tomorrow.
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Hi Jim Mason,

Here are pics of the box that my condenser came in.
Pretty sure the condenser is in my original unrestored car that was in
judging at Dallas 2008. Car is in storage in another city.

Thinking that FoMoCo parts were post Model A Ford era replacements.

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Hi Jim Mason,

Here are pics of the box that my condenser came in.
Pretty sure the condenser is in my original unrestored car that was in
judging at Dallas 2008. Car is in storage in another city.

Thinking that FoMoCo parts were post Model A Ford era replacements.

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I do have a couple of these also and despite the age they are working great!
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Here's a thread on saving original condensers. I show pictures in reply #37.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...picture&page=2
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I have way too many parts in way too many buildings! I can only locate 3 nos condensers at the moment.
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This one has a smaller part number on the body
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This one has the oval, but fomoco inside, small part number and no markings on the tab, this one is obviously later production year.
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The 2011 revised standards call for a black enameled body, with bronze lug. Beginning in Aug. 29 cadmium plating is optional. the grounding tab had no markings until july 31 when a lengthwise ford script was added.
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pretty sure FoMoCo logo dates to about 1952.
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The 2011 revised standards call for a black enameled body, with bronze lug. Beginning in Aug. 29 cadmium plating is optional. the grounding tab had no markings until july 31 when a lengthwise ford script was added.
what is interesting to that in the JS is that its almost like hens teeth to find an original black one, let alone one with traces of black paint on it... Does anyone have one???
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I have never seen one, and did not know they came in black until your post #6 Mark. It wasn't until this morning when I pulled out the standards that I had a hmmm moment.
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I have never seen one, and did not know they came in black until your post #6 Mark. It wasn't until this morning when I pulled out the standards that I had a hmmm moment.

Yes interesting isn't it, It was also mentioned at the undercarriage seminar of the same, that is really a hmmmm moment!

Here is a pic of A495 and the brass distributor with the BLACK condenser..
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Yes interesting isn't it, It was also mentioned at the undercarriage seminar of the same, that is really a hmmmm moment!

Here is a pic of A495 and the brass distributor with the BLACK condenser..
What's up with the black paint on the distributor? It looks 30 years old.
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Actually what you are looking at is one of the rarest dizzy that exist. that is not black paint but what you are looking at is BRASS, it was left like that and just cleaned to be able to show the brass. This is as close to impossible to find as there is, if I am correct only 3 people in the hobby own one.
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The condenser is bad and not usable, vintage condensers from that time period dry out and go bad when they get old. I found it in a box full of old condensers from distributors that I have rebuilt. All of these old condensers are bad.
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And if they're ALL BAD, why do you SAVE them???
Should I SAVE old burned out house BULBS? Is there a chance they'll come back to LIFE?
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Bill you save them for taking apart and studying them and for reference.
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Lots of good info here. This dist. that im working on also had a Ford script dist. body that looks like its never been used. How old are the script bodys?
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Lots of good info here. This dist. that im working on also had a Ford script dist. body that looks like its never been used. How old are the script bodys?
Evening, Gary,
I often wonder, just because it has a FORD script, is it REALLY OLD, or later produced GENUINE PARTS. "Might have been made on 06-17-1938"?? Worked for Ford in '59 & they poked SCRIPT on most everything, Just like us, they liked to see their name EVERYWHERE!!! MUCH history is well DOCUMENTED, but I wonder if some is "MADE UP"?
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Could be Bill....we may never know.
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Could be Bill....we may never know.
Like when we search the Internet, FOREVER, until we find the statement we WANTED to HEAR---LOL
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Hope you can see this...it's my first try at adding a photo. It has Ford on front and back of the tab with the number 95
Your pic shows 9 Then 5, not 95. Sept 1935?
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You're right Ron....it could be ? I like the mystery of this stuff as much as the car itself ! Its kind of neat finding a distributor thats steal tight as new with poss. 80 yr old parts attached and only needs a little TLC.

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I'm ONLY interested in running GOOD quality ignition parts that DON'T fart out on me.
I consider some ignition parts as DISPOSABLE, throw away stuff, after they've been run a long time. Would I clean, gap, & run some old USED 83 year old PLUGS?---NOT EVEN ON A BET!
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Bill i didnt mean im going to use the parts...just thought its kind of cool everything stayed in such gpod shape after all these years. Im like you..i wouldnt trust vintage used parts like these.
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I have an NOS condenser that has a small Ford script on the tab and the script would face out. On the body of the condenser there is a rather large Ford script (~3/4"). Below it is the part number A12300 and below that is a circle (~1/4") that has the number 8 in it.

I have no time right now to take photos and try to post them. Perhaps later this afternoon or this evening.
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Have one with Ford Script on tab with small circle with a 2 inside with the A-12300 below the attachment hole faces inward toward distributor...Has large Ford script on body of condenser, circle with a 2 inside and part number of A-12300.

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