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Drive Shaft Dave · 02-28-2014, 09:50 PM

I have this Ford script in an oval. It has no other marking on it other than Ford. It appears to be oil filled. Could this coil be used in the normal Model A position? Also the tower terminal is held in place with a phillips head screw, 37 or later?

foxfire42 · 02-28-2014, 10:25 PM

Model A coils did not have Ford in an Oval. Ford Script coils for the Model A was introduced in July of '31 and not inside an oval. Near the bottom of the coil the manufacturers identification was located. I've used later coils with no problems. I question the Phillips head screws and doubt they are original to the coil.

Barb Birt

Drive Shaft Dave · 02-28-2014, 10:44 PM

Thanks for the reply, I knew this coil was not A. It also doesn't have the built on mounting bracket. The screw I was refering to was for the high tension terminal.

Kurt in NJ · 02-28-2014, 10:54 PM

I think it is a "Ricks" showcar coil from the 80s ---I have one on my car--put it on when I had weak spark problems, it has a strong spark, no problems for at least 20 years, it even drained the battery once and still works ---mine looks to be a script cover on a modern coil

Marco Tahtaras · 02-28-2014, 11:32 PM

Yep, doesn't sound like original. However original coils with script in an oval were produced by Essex Co. Essex was the ONLY company that produced coils with Ford in an oval regardless whether Model A or "B" four cylinder.

Mike V. Florida · 03-01-2014, 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drive Shaft Dave

Also the tower terminal is held in place with a phillips head screw, 37 or later?

Phillips screw procuced by Henry Phillips in 1934.

Bruce Lancaster · 03-03-2014, 04:58 PM

On that Phillips head screw...is it really? I have seen period electrical bits (both home and auto) with a screw or rivet that has a cross head...but it is actually two shallow flat groove like those for flat head screwdrivers. I only see them on things not meant to be removed, permanent connections within switches and plugs.

Drive Shaft Dave · 03-04-2014, 12:46 AM

Yes Bruce thank you for replying, this is an actual Phillip's head screw, I just wanted to know if this coil , being oil filled could be used with the high tension terminal pointing down. This coil is not new by any means it is just some thing i have had in my stash for many years and it work's. By the way Kevin mentioned that it could be a coil from Ricks back in the seventie.s.

Smurkey · 03-04-2014, 10:09 AM

Quote:

On that Phillips head screw...is it really? I have seen period electrical bits (both home and auto) with a screw or rivet that has a cross head...but it is actually two shallow flat groove like those for flat head screwdrivers. I only see them on things not meant to be removed, permanent connections within switches and plugs.

I think those are rivets and the "X" pattern is the method of upsetting the end. I think, that is.

dave in australia · 03-04-2014, 05:57 PM

I use a modern coil mounted upside down, my tudor is neg ground 12V, and no leaks from the coil so far. Run the coil upside down, and keep an eye on it for leaks. If you see the start of a leak, start looking for a new coil.

Purdy Swoft · 03-04-2014, 06:47 PM

I run an epoxy filled 3.0 OHM coil on my 12 volt model A and will never have an oil leak from the coil.

02-28-2014, 09:50 PM	#1
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Post Model A script coil I have this Ford script in an oval. It has no other marking on it other than Ford. It appears to be oil filled. Could this coil be used in the normal Model A position? Also the tower terminal is held in place with a phillips head screw, 37 or later?

02-28-2014, 10:25 PM	#2
foxfire42 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ and WA Posts: 764	Re: Post Model A script coil Model A coils did not have Ford in an Oval. Ford Script coils for the Model A was introduced in July of '31 and not inside an oval. Near the bottom of the coil the manufacturers identification was located. I've used later coils with no problems. I question the Phillips head screws and doubt they are original to the coil. Barb Birt Last edited by foxfire42; 02-28-2014 at 10:34 PM.

02-28-2014, 10:44 PM	#3
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Re: Post Model A script coil Thanks for the reply, I knew this coil was not A. It also doesn't have the built on mounting bracket. The screw I was refering to was for the high tension terminal.

02-28-2014, 10:54 PM	#4
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,157	Re: Post Model A script coil I think it is a "Ricks" showcar coil from the 80s ---I have one on my car--put it on when I had weak spark problems, it has a strong spark, no problems for at least 20 years, it even drained the battery once and still works ---mine looks to be a script cover on a modern coil

02-28-2014, 11:32 PM	#5
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: Post Model A script coil Yep, doesn't sound like original. However original coils with script in an oval were produced by Essex Co. Essex was the ONLY company that produced coils with Ford in an oval regardless whether Model A or "B" four cylinder. __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

03-03-2014, 04:58 PM	#7
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Post Model A script coil On that Phillips head screw...is it really? I have seen period electrical bits (both home and auto) with a screw or rivet that has a cross head...but it is actually two shallow flat groove like those for flat head screwdrivers. I only see them on things not meant to be removed, permanent connections within switches and plugs.

03-04-2014, 12:46 AM	#8
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Re: Post Model A script coil Yes Bruce thank you for replying, this is an actual Phillip's head screw, I just wanted to know if this coil , being oil filled could be used with the high tension terminal pointing down. This coil is not new by any means it is just some thing i have had in my stash for many years and it work's. By the way Kevin mentioned that it could be a coil from Ricks back in the seventie.s. Last edited by Drive Shaft Dave; 03-04-2014 at 12:53 AM.

03-04-2014, 05:57 PM	#10
dave in australia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,176	Re: Post Model A script coil I use a modern coil mounted upside down, my tudor is neg ground 12V, and no leaks from the coil so far. Run the coil upside down, and keep an eye on it for leaks. If you see the start of a leak, start looking for a new coil.

03-04-2014, 06:47 PM	#11
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Post Model A script coil I run an epoxy filled 3.0 OHM coil on my 12 volt model A and will never have an oil leak from the coil.