The Ford Barn

malpais · 05-01-2013, 05:20 PM

It's great to learn from my mistakes, but wish I didn't learn EVERYTHING that way. Even do it despite the great help on the Ford Barn!

Read a lot about clutches etc on the Barn a while back
(Dec 12), and asked questions about clutch linkage arms, and adjusted purchases and process accordingly.

Found a flywheel for right size/type PP and had it resurfaced, got a Fort Wayne PP and disk. All went together good.

Last night I was reading old posts, and noticed some posts about 8BA flywheels, 59ab flywheels. I immediately thought "uh oh" (actually "oh s@#%"), waded through 18" of new snow with a flash light, and pulled off the starter.

Sho 'nuff! I put an old style flywheel on this '53 engine. I am now the proud owner of two 8BA resurfaced flywheels drilled for 11" clutches that I don't need, and a wrong old style resurfaced flywheel drilled for the components I do want to use.

Glad I'm old enuf to laugh at myself!

Ford Barn once again kept me from getting the body on, having the starter stick, clutch funny, and digging into everything again. Fairly easy to fix now.

Gordon

Henry/Kokomo · 05-01-2013, 09:20 PM

You're not the only one who has done similar things. Hang in there!

oldrelics · 05-01-2013, 09:21 PM

Don't worry, I screw up alot of stuff too

4t8v8 · 05-01-2013, 10:13 PM

You mean that isn't normal?? Welcome to the club. Been there many times. It is all a major part of the "charm" of this hobby.

31chevy · 05-02-2013, 06:04 AM

I also am old enough to laugh at myself. (I do it quite often)
Gary.

done4 · 05-02-2013, 08:09 AM

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Can't tell you how many times I had to redo things. I figure if you don't do it over two or three times you're just not having any fun. But in the end you've done it right, maybe that's why it's taking me so long.

37 Coupe · 05-02-2013, 08:23 AM

You are going through exactly what I was about 7 years ago when I happened upon the old Fordbarn. I felt very lucky not only finding Fordbarn but dealing with the mixup while engine was still on the stand. Probably thirty years or so ago there was an article in the V8 Times from a very expierienced engine builder that recommended the usual upgrade to 49-53 Ford solid valve guides and straight stems for earlier engines,he talked about crankshafts being interchangeable and went further to ad using the later flywheel (8BA) would be an improvement.This always stuck in my mind and when I rebuilt my 59AB with a 4" crank I went forward with the later flywheel and clutch. Fordbarn saved me from some agravation. Problem with printed material that is incorrect in publications is it will be there forever and someone else will buy into it.

Russ/40 · 05-02-2013, 11:14 AM

I always say, when my 29rpu is done I will have restored two of them from doing everything twice.

Big Shark · 05-02-2013, 11:41 AM

If ya aint screwin up, You aint doin anything !!!!!!!! Never quit. Bruce S

OLD...BILL · 05-02-2013, 04:22 PM

GEE: I feel right at home...... OLD....BILL

Bassman/NZ · 05-02-2013, 05:19 PM

My AV8 build is nearly done, and it's taken almost 5 years. If I got it right the first time it would've taken me 2 years.....

Ken Crans · 05-02-2013, 08:07 PM

Yea, its like..check once,do twice! LOL

malpais · 05-02-2013, 09:09 PM

There is so much info on FB I read for hours - then go out to the shop and screw it up or miss somthin' - like no old flywheel on late engine! Every now and then I start wondering "did I do that right or did I reverse that part"? "Did I put that thrust washer in or not"? So I even do some stuff RIGHT a couple of times.

Then there are just plain "Duh's!. Once I put the torque tube and rear end in and looked up on my wall and saw the OTHER half of the clam shell. Oh yea!, should have remembered there were two halves from when I took it apart several years ago.

Good news is, I'm getting good at lining up that universal.

Gordon

05-01-2013, 05:20 PM	#1
malpais Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 506	Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! It's great to learn from my mistakes, but wish I didn't learn EVERYTHING that way. Even do it despite the great help on the Ford Barn! Read a lot about clutches etc on the Barn a while back (Dec 12), and asked questions about clutch linkage arms, and adjusted purchases and process accordingly. Found a flywheel for right size/type PP and had it resurfaced, got a Fort Wayne PP and disk. All went together good. Last night I was reading old posts, and noticed some posts about 8BA flywheels, 59ab flywheels. I immediately thought "uh oh" (actually "oh s@#%"), waded through 18" of new snow with a flash light, and pulled off the starter. Sho 'nuff! I put an old style flywheel on this '53 engine. I am now the proud owner of two 8BA resurfaced flywheels drilled for 11" clutches that I don't need, and a wrong old style resurfaced flywheel drilled for the components I do want to use. Glad I'm old enuf to laugh at myself! Ford Barn once again kept me from getting the body on, having the starter stick, clutch funny, and digging into everything again. Fairly easy to fix now. Gordon __________________ Don't mind learning from my mistakes. Just wish I didn't learn EVERYTHING from my mistakes..

05-01-2013, 09:20 PM	#2
Henry/Kokomo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kokomo, Indiana Posts: 1,731	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! You're not the only one who has done similar things. Hang in there! __________________ Henry

05-01-2013, 09:21 PM	#3
oldrelics Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 571	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! Don't worry, I screw up alot of stuff too

05-01-2013, 10:13 PM	#4
4t8v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 524	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! You mean that isn't normal?? Welcome to the club. Been there many times. It is all a major part of the "charm" of this hobby.

05-02-2013, 06:04 AM	#5
31chevy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lake City Mi. Posts: 807	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! I also am old enough to laugh at myself. (I do it quite often) Gary.

05-02-2013, 08:09 AM	#6
done4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Union Pier MI Posts: 392	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Can't tell you how many times I had to redo things. I figure if you don't do it over two or three times you're just not having any fun. But in the end you've done it right, maybe that's why it's taking me so long. __________________ Still smokin tires and cigars

05-02-2013, 08:23 AM	#7
37 Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,835	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! You are going through exactly what I was about 7 years ago when I happened upon the old Fordbarn. I felt very lucky not only finding Fordbarn but dealing with the mixup while engine was still on the stand. Probably thirty years or so ago there was an article in the V8 Times from a very expierienced engine builder that recommended the usual upgrade to 49-53 Ford solid valve guides and straight stems for earlier engines,he talked about crankshafts being interchangeable and went further to ad using the later flywheel (8BA) would be an improvement.This always stuck in my mind and when I rebuilt my 59AB with a 4" crank I went forward with the later flywheel and clutch. Fordbarn saved me from some agravation. Problem with printed material that is incorrect in publications is it will be there forever and someone else will buy into it. __________________ "Never complain,never explain"... Henry Ford II

05-02-2013, 11:14 AM	#8
Russ/40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee, California Posts: 3,505	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! I always say, when my 29rpu is done I will have restored two of them from doing everything twice.

05-02-2013, 11:41 AM	#9
Big Shark Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 305	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! If ya aint screwin up, You aint doin anything !!!!!!!! Never quit. Bruce S

05-02-2013, 04:22 PM	#10
OLD...BILL Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern California,coast Posts: 552	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! GEE: I feel right at home...... OLD....BILL

05-02-2013, 05:19 PM	#11
Bassman/NZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 2,001	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! My AV8 build is nearly done, and it's taken almost 5 years. If I got it right the first time it would've taken me 2 years.....

05-02-2013, 08:07 PM	#12
Ken Crans Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Highland,MI Posts: 1,196	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! Yea, its like..check once,do twice! LOL

05-02-2013, 09:09 PM	#13
malpais Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 506	Re: Screwed up 39 PU project a little - again! There is so much info on FB I read for hours - then go out to the shop and screw it up or miss somthin' - like no old flywheel on late engine! Every now and then I start wondering "did I do that right or did I reverse that part"? "Did I put that thrust washer in or not"? So I even do some stuff RIGHT a couple of times. Then there are just plain "Duh's!. Once I put the torque tube and rear end in and looked up on my wall and saw the OTHER half of the clam shell. Oh yea!, should have remembered there were two halves from when I took it apart several years ago. Good news is, I'm getting good at lining up that universal. Gordon __________________ Don't mind learning from my mistakes. Just wish I didn't learn EVERYTHING from my mistakes..