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Old 01-18-2020, 04:50 PM   #1
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Guten Abend!

Does anyone have mounted these parts and can show me a picture how it looks when they are installed?

Is this a new idea or an addition from the car era back the 30-th?

https://www.brattons.com/eng-splash-...er-coated.html


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Old 01-18-2020, 04:58 PM   #2
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Ford installed them originally. Many people have removed them over the years. They use two of the oil pan bolts and two bolts to the frame.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:18 PM   #3
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Some say that engine splash pans aid in cooling the engine. I really can't say from experience if that is true or not.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:57 PM   #4
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Also as a ground path, a ground from frame to engine.
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:41 PM   #5
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Ford installed them originally. Many people have removed them over the years. They use two of the oil pan bolts and two bolts to the frame.
They use 3 bolts to the frame.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:37 PM   #6
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Werner,
I feel they are important. They direct air across the exhaust manifold and the block itself, instead of letting it escape out the bottom. They also look good and keep the engine compartment cleaner. And as stated about they also assure an electrical path, Engine to frame.When you put them in place from the bottom, it is very obvious what bolts are used to hold them on.
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Old 01-18-2020, 10:42 PM   #7
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Kind of hard to take pictures of but I gave it my best attempt
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Old 01-18-2020, 11:18 PM   #8
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Very helpful when you don't use an air filter on the carburetor.>
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Old 01-18-2020, 11:40 PM   #9
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I agree with Whirnot in post #6. I think they help with cooling the engine, but certainly will catch your air-maze filter if it falls off ! Also, they are original equipment, so I have them installed on my car.
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Old 01-18-2020, 11:48 PM   #10
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Werner, take a look also at these older threads on the engine pans. The two most common problems are (1) difficulty with the installation due to the mount points not quite being where they're supposed to be or the holes being too small and (2) vibration at the mount points causing noise as well as wear on the flanges. Various fixes are proposed in the threads for both issues.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...7430&showall=1
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4312
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45594
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:15 AM   #11
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I have had engine pans on my sedan almost 40 years and never had a problem with them breaking. I was lucky and found original ford plans and had them powder coated black.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:31 AM   #12
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Hallo and a big "Thankyou" at all for the unanimous positive informations.

I will order now the sheets from Brattons. They look good and were originally installed. I didn't know that until now.

Yes, the cooling of the exhaust tract is improved. When parking, less air circulates from the bottom up and the engine cools down more slowly.

The air filter is mounted upright, so no problem.

Thanks for reporting the fits. I will mount the sheet metal edges with adhesive rubber liner.

Thanks also for the photos and the links!
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Old 01-19-2020, 10:58 AM   #13
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Using adhesive liner when installing the engine pans will cause the engine pans to be a pain to remove when necessary . Lock washers work well at holding the engine pans in place for me .

It has been said that engine pans help cooling by 15% . I feel that the pans help !!! The model A needs all of the cooling help that it can get . Fifteen percent may not be that noticeable . Any improvement in cooling is good .

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Old 01-19-2020, 12:34 PM   #14
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I think they help keep the engine compartment clean.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:20 AM   #15
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I agree !!!
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:51 AM   #16
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My AA has the bolts still on the frame and remnants of the long gone pans still under the bolts. If I ever get to that point I plan to install new ones.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:04 PM   #17
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An adhesive rubber liner may act as a noise reducer, but it may also act as an electrical insulator... The engine pans are an integral part of the the grounding system, and need to be connected firmly enough to make an adequate electrical connection.....
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:04 PM   #18
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The two places the engine pans bolt onto the oil pan are prone to cracking and breaking since the oil pan bolts are recessed a small amount inside the flange of the oil pan. I put a couple of small washers between the oil pan and the engine pan to keep the tabs straight when the bolts are tightened up.
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Use the extra grd strap from tranny top to the original ground location. Even if you have pans, it’s a better grd.
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31 Cabriolet 68-C, the best way to make sure the engine is grounded to the frame is to attach a wire to a bell housing bolt and connect the other end to the frame. Very simple to do and it works.
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