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Old 11-09-2015, 10:11 PM   #1
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Default 21 stud to 24 stud V8

Question for the Ford flathead experts. What year did Ford change from the 21 stud to the 24 stud 221 V8 ? Also, were there both versions during one model year ? I'm asking this because I watched a video of 1938 Fords being built at the Ford Rouge, and they showed both 21 and 24 stud engines.

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Old 11-09-2015, 10:24 PM   #2
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The video was correct. The 1938 year used both 21 and 24 stud engines.

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I believe it was mid 38 when he 24 stud block came out.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:57 PM   #4
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Yep, 38 Fords were a mixture, 21 studs early and 24 studs late.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:58 PM   #5
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Yes, the 24 studder was used in the 1938-and-a-half model or thereabouts. 8^)

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Old 11-10-2015, 08:35 AM   #6
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1937 was the first year the water pumps in the front of the block 21 stud, in 38 Ford used up the left over 37 engine in the first 38 cars, then the 24 studs in later 38. Walt
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:30 PM   #7
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Default Re: 21 stud to 24 stud V8

Thanks a lot everybody for the info. Looks like everyone agrees on both being used in '38. All of the engines I saw on the video also had Stromberg 97's which is correct also (last year of the 97 on Fords). I didn't see any V8 60's in the video though. I think they built those in '37, '38 and '39.

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Thanks a lot everybody for the info. Looks like everyone agrees on both being used in '38. All of the engines I saw on the video also had Stromberg 97's which is correct also (last year of the 97 on Fords). I didn't see any V8 60's in the video though. I think they built those in '37, '38 and '39.

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Also in 1940. Funny, the '40 version was improved in various ways, then dropped!
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Old 11-10-2015, 06:42 PM   #9
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Thank you 40 Deluxe. I should have said '40 too. I realized that after I posted it.
Didn't realize there were improvements for the V8 60 in '40.

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Yes, the V8 60 hp is like a turtle. Several varieties, but all versions are SLOW. Built for Europe due to fuel prices and marketed here in the States. Only one of Ford's mistakes.


Go BIG or Go Home. V8 85 hp and higher for me. I owned 2 V8 60s. One in a survivor 37 Coupe and one in a 40 Midwest pickup. Both ran and idled excellent. First upgrade you came to was when you pulled your hair out and made up some new words. The Model As and Model B engines would run circles around them. I drove them around the block and that was enough for me.

My survivor 37 coupe only had 23,000 miles as of last year. -Cause nobody wanted to drive it much I guess. And the 40 pickup only had 42K. Find one because they are in cherry condition, then change the motor and deep 6 the 60.
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The Chandler Groves carb was introduced in 1938 and was used as well as was the 97.
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