Heaters?

[Zeke...PA]

How many cars have heaters, water, exhaust ? Zeke

[42merc]

My '40 has a hot water heater.
I live in Michigan, can't really enjoy your ride in the spring or the fall without one.

[4dFord/SC]

Originally Posted by 42merc

My '40 has a hot water heater.

x2.

[Bruce in southern OH]

39 Lincoln, exhaust, works great

[Joe Immler]

'41 coupe with hot water heater. I live in Ohio and X2 what 42merc said

[malpais]

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I've had experience on seven late 30 flatheads. 5 had hot water heaters(two are Ford Script), one has an exhaust heater, one has a Southwind gasoline.

These were all originally in cold weather states: Ohio, Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming.

I've found it's hard to find fan parts for the Ford Script heaters, and hard to find heat exchangers for the exhaust heaters, if that's a factor for you.

Since they were mostly aftermarket or dealer installed, be hard to find numbers....

Gordon

[1939 pickup truck]

The 39 Ford C91 will be getting a Tropic Air added for those fine late fall foliage tours.

[Tim Brown]

Here is what goes into my cars. This is California. We dont need much more than a warm backside....

http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html

[PeterC]

Originally Posted by Zeke...PA

How many cars have heaters, water, exhaust ? Zeke

I have a restored 1940 Ford heater (hot water) in my 35 3 window - boy it gets toasty in there fast!

[charles in east texas]

I have an exhaust hot air heater. Wife loves it.

[RalphG]

Given my location it will come as no surprise that my 39 Deluxe had a heater installed. It is a B.F.Goodrich connected up to the cooling system by hoses. One to the lower right radiator hose and the other to the top of the right head. I removed it years ago for reasons I can't recall but still have it. The stick on glass, later plastic, "frost shields" were standard equipment on cars here in winter. The weak heaters needed a little help in our cold weather.

[deuce_roadster]

3- 40s all have hot water heaters. (wagon, convert, V8 coupe)

[Blu Dice]

My '52 has a very good stock heater, and since I drive my car every weekend it gets a real work out here.

[41ford1]

The pickup has a good working Southwind heater. The stock unit in the '53 Courier provides plenty of heat. I have electric seat heaters in the hot rod for the cooler days.

[47 flatbed]

Kept aftermarket heater in my 47. My wife's 41 will have original restored and installed. My 39 3/4 ton will too when that happens all hot water heaters

[Fibber Mcgee]

My 41 still has original Ford water heater(even has 41 date on back of housing ) but my 49 has an early 50s Western Auto water heater.

[Barry-ct]

My 50 F-1 has the factory fresh aire hot water heater installed.

[Ol' Ron]

My truck will have a Vintage Air water heater/ defroster.

[rick r]

Have a hot water heater/defroster in my 51 Meteor and a hot water heater in my 32 roadster hot rod. Both are old swap meet 6Volt units. Run a resister, both cars converted to 12v

[Dick Webber]

39 Deluxe has a Ford hot water heater. Went to a lot of trouble and expense to buy and restore it but it works great.

49 F-1 has what I thought was a factory hot water heater but some say it is a Firestone item.

49 Mercury has factory fresh air heater.

I drive these cars year around if the streets free from salt and I really appreciate the heaters

Model A has a manifold heater which is much better than none, and works best on a hot day.

Merry Christmas to all!

[keith oh]

My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

[Shu47]

My 47 tonner has Ford hot water heater that looks just like the one in Dick Webber's picture. Only mine is not as pretty. Mine looks like it was added by the way the holes are cut thru the firewall.

[Dave in WY]

I have a 40 heater that came with my 40. I am trying to restore it. Need a motor and trim clips to finish things off. I hope to install it this winter if I find the parts and get the time.
Merry Christmas!!
Dave

[RalphG]

Originally Posted by keith oh

My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

My 38 parts car had that exhaust manifold type heater on it. I likely still have it somewhere but would have a hard time locating it as I removed the engine over 30 years ago.

[Lawson Cox]

Southwind Jr. in my 35 pickup. All NOS guts. Still needs a little tweaking, but heats things up very well.

[Henry/Kokomo]

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Have the stock Ford hot water heater in my '46 Tudor. Had the core cleaned out and it works pretty well. The defroster is a little "iffy" but better than no defroster.

[wingerdinger]

My `35 1-1/2 ton has a nice water heater, and appears to be factory or at least Ford. It is odd how it is plumbed, and has some plastic replacement tees and wrong clamps and such. I'd love to find out how it supposed to be plumbed.

[Old Henry]

This is the heater shown in the 46-48 sales literature:



This is the fresh air heater that became available at the end of '47 and is in my car:



And these are pictures of that heater in my car:

The inlet of the air duct that takes air from in front of the radiator:



That then goes along under the hood:



Meeting the fan on the firewall when the hood is closed. The cable going up over the duct controls the damper in the duct (bottom of pivot shaft seen near fan port) to control the air going through the duct.



Into the heater coil on the passenger side of the firewall.



To go out both sides of the bottom plus a slit along the bottom unless that damper is pulled up to divert it to the windshield.



Three dashboard controls. Left for defrost. Middle one direction two speed fan switch. Right controls the damper in the hood duct to control the outside air coming in.

[Fibber Mcgee]

My 41 has a switch that has high and low in forward or reverse. Does anyone know what the purpose of this is as I don't see the advantage of reverse.

[Blu Dice]

Hey Old Henry - how well does that fresh ai heater work - that is some set-up!!

[Blu Dice]

My 1st car was a '41 Plymouth coupe (with a back seat)that had a hot water heater under the driver seat (disconnected) - I've never seen another one and always wonder how they functioned.

[Zeke...PA]

Has anyone tried the approximate 7 X 7 X 7" hot water heater sold by Summit Racing ? looks like an easy mount and fit. Don't know about output listed at 12,000BTU. Zeke

[sidevalve8ba]

This is a box-type heater I bought twenty-plus years ago from J. C. Whitney for my Model A but was never installed. It looks to be the same one you are describing. It did not come with heater hose or shut off valve. It is designed so that a defroster could be hooked up with a bit of duct hose and other items. The fan is two speed and it came with the switch. I used it in my '32 and it does a good job.

Oh yeah, I paid about $70 for it back then.

[Graeme / New Zealand]

My 48 had a heater in it one stage ( square Ford thing with the flaps). I came with the parts for my car. It is still boxed away. I never bothered to install it as we have a temperate climate here.....anyway I have a "dirty great big heater" that radiates through the firewall and up through the toe board of my vehicle.

GB

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by Fibber Mcgee

My 41 has a switch that has high and low in forward or reverse. Does anyone know what the purpose of this is as I don't see the advantage of reverse.

That switch was to control the stock recirculating heater I showed in Post # 28. If you read the description of that heater you'll see that the fan could blow forward through the coils and into the passenger compartment for more heat or backward, drawing air through the coil and blowing it against the wall for less focused heat. Plus you had two speeds each direction.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by Blu Dice

Hey Old Henry - how well does that fresh ai heater work - that is some set-up!!

I think the heater works great. I get way more heat than I usually need and plenty on even the coldest drives (drove it down to 7° here: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93137). Plus, because it brings in fresh air the windows rarely fog up so better visibility all 'round and it pressurizes the inside of the car to keep drafts of cold air coming in any cracks or gaps. I like it. But, then, I've never had anything else.

[Dave in WY]

The knob on the switch should say Indirect-slow & fast, Off, Direct-slow & fast. Direct heat blows air through the core and out the front of the heater. Indirect is reverse and Should be for Defrost, and as Old Henry says, for indirect heat, as it will suck air through the core and blows it out the back side of the heater against the firewall.
Dave

[Fibber Mcgee]

Thanks ,Old Henry and Dave. Mine is all there and works but it seems kind of pointless but it's nice to know what it's supposed to do.

[PeterC]

Further to my post - my Coupe had a dealer installed gas fired heater installed back in teh 30s' (that was scarey!) which came with a nice factory match dash mounted heater push/pull knob and cable that went to an interior door flap to open and close the air. When I converted to the 1940 hot water heater I used a modern water shut off valve as you can see in the picture and re-purposed the heater cable to operate the valve. Click on picture to enlarge

Originally Posted by PeterC

I have a restored 1940 Ford heater (hot water) in my 35 3 window - boy it gets toasty in there fast!

[FL&WVMIKE]

Originally Posted by keith oh

My 35 has a manifold heater much like the Model A heater that uses the engine fan air blowing over a exhaust manifold heat exchanger directly through a hole in the firewall. I have not seen any others like it. It does take the edge off if its not to cold out. Has anybody else have one like it?

keith oh ........................
It sounds like you might have a GENUINE FORD accessory heater. If it is like this one, you do. They are pretty scarce.
Also shown, is the original FORD adjustment device.
I believe the lower inlet tube, in the third photo, is the correct one.
MIKE (mikeburch)
CLICK ON PHOTOS TO ENLARGE

[keith oh]

PLeterC, There were thousands of South Wind heaters installed, I have never heard of any causing anything but lots of fast heat. I even had a Airplane with one, where would you least want something dangerous than in an Airplane?

[PeterC]

Originally Posted by keith oh

PLeterC, There were thousands of South Wind heaters installed, I have never heard of any causing anything but lots of fast heat. I even had a Airplane with one, where would you least want something dangerous than in an Airplane?

Yes - There was a South Wind unit installed - obviously the car did not burn as a result - I just cringe with the idea of a fuel line in the interior of the car - just preference - and by pure coincidence - I flew a plane with 92 gal fuel tanks in each wing and an 85 gallon auxiliary tank right behind my seat with the fuel selector valve between my legs ... so certainly aware of fuel in the cockpit area – just prefer these days to not have it that close in my Ford!

[keith oh]

FL&WVMike, No it is not like the one you pictured. As I said it is much like the Model A heaters. The right hand exhaust manifold was cast with a heat exchanger as part of it then a cover placed over it and air went directly through the firewall useing the engine fan air directly.

[wingerdinger]

As long as there is a heater thread going, I am going to post a question in here, rather than start a new post.
I have a 1935 Ford 1-1/2 ton truck, Model 51, recently purchased, not currently road worthy, but close.
It has a water heater that appears to be factory, but I have no way to compare or determine that. Mostly, I am puzzled by the hose routing.
The upper hose comes out of the heater core, and is fitted to a tee sitting on top of the right head. From there, the two hoses attached to the tee go to each water pump, each fitted with a fitting coming out the side. The water pumps are both cast with the fittings in them.
The lower hose comes out of the heater, and go to a tee, which is fitted to a pipe threaded into the right side lower block. From there, a hose goes to left side lower block, with a fitting going into the block, and a drain valve.
All of the hoses are typical 3/4" or so heater type hoses.
Is there anyone who can tell me why the hoses would be routed in such a manner? Has anybody ever seen anything similar?

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by PeterC

Yes - There was a South Wind unit installed - obviously the car did not burn as a result - I just cringe with the idea of a fuel line in the interior of the car - just preference - and by pure coincidence - I flew a plane with 92 gal fuel tanks in each wing and an 85 gallon auxiliary tank right behind my seat with the fuel selector valve between my legs ... so certainly aware of fuel in the cockpit area – just prefer these days to not have it that close in my Ford!

I drove a 41 Chevy with a South Wind heater. Loved that heater, on the coldest day instant heat.

[RalphG]

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Never seen anything like that. Sounds like a lot more plumbing than necessary. Maybe the original owner was not getting enough heat and thought he would get more using coolant from both sides of the engine? All I have seen just have one hose in from the head and a return to the lower right rad hose or water pump.

[Old Henry]

I've grown weary of trying to get the right temperature out of my heater and into the car since there was no control on the hot water - it just flowed full blast all the time - and there were only two fan speeds. On high fan it just got too hot and on low speed the air coming out of the heater was just as hot if not hotter resulting in my right foot roasting and my left foot and back seat passengers freezing. What I wanted was to be able to keep the fan on high but turn down the heat so that it would circulate evenly through the car and keep the positive pressure that kept cold air from coming in any little cracks or gaps to the outside.

Fortunately I found this remote control water valve though O'Reilly's that screwed right into the block in place of the old style manual valve without even needing to replace the hose with a longer one.







Added O'Reilly's remote control cable, (only came in 5' length so had to cut it down a couple of feet to fit perfectly)



And installed the knob next to all of the other heater control knobs.



Took a 400 mile road trip last weekend and it was so nice to be able to regulate the heat exactly as I wanted.

[Old Henry]

I've had a couple of PM's asking about part numbers for my heater temperature control system. Here's the O'Reilly valve: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se...?keyword=74683 That one is pretty pricy. I had to sleep on it a night to talk myself into buying it. Here's a much cheaper one from NAPA but it has to have a hose on each end. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Re...Dp%3d3%26N%3d0
Here's the control cable: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...&keyword=55103

[Lawson Cox]

My 35 pick up has a South Wind Junior model in it. Will run your arss out in a hurry.

[johnh7]

I have an aftermarket water heater just like the one sidevalve8ba shows. It works well. I will change it out for a vintage one if i ever get serious about restoring instead of driving.

[funrunr]

[QUOTE=Dick Webber;1002439]

Model A has a manifold heater which is much better than none, and works best on a hot day.

LMAO! Too funny

[quickchange34]

Ol Ron you have just gone Street Rodding. Ha Ha. They make great heaters and AC units.

[glennsanders]

I am looking for 1935 heater like that 301 514-5017

[Fourdy]

My restored heater using a 12 to 6 volt reducer. Lots of heat and the defroster also works great.



Fourdy


http://postimg.org/gallery/cdd41yxm/

[johnh7]

Thanks Old Henry for putting in that information and adding the links. I have had a similar problem. Too hot or not enough. This will fix it.