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Old 09-08-2019, 11:05 AM   #21
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The flat head screws for the floor sound right enough because flat is what a floor should be. I had a mixture of flat and oval head on my floor. There is one interesting detail on the extreme right lower screw hole. There is one FLAT head screw that is permanently rusted in place. Perhaps this one is an original factory installed, that could never be removed As the two prestigious gentleman stated...Makes good sense to use flat head screw on the floor.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:44 AM   #22
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One further note regarding floorboard screws........Ford Pickups/Panel Deliveries/full size trucks in 1935 and 1936 used 12-24 flat head machine screws and recessed washers to hold the floorboards in place. Passenger cars, during this time period, used 1/4-20 flat head screws and washers.

The 12-24 Flat head screws came in two lengths...(8) 24696-S2 1" to hold floorboard #1 in place and (10) 24704-S2 1 1/8" to hold floorboard #2 in place.

The (8) 1/4-20 screws were 1 1/4" long and held the left and right passenger floorboards in place.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:47 PM   #23
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The truck/passenger-car difference in thread size was obviously not something done with simplifying the job on the assembly line in mind.
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Old 09-08-2019, 04:59 PM   #24
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This is an excellent reason why I don't care to have my cars "judged".

Just drive 'em and enjoy them.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:45 PM   #25
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As for me, I drive too. Judging bums me out most of the time. Just put 2K miles on my 35 beater.


Edit: Still I prefer to use correct fasteners. I have to replace a couple of hundred on my car thanks to the previous owner and his shops.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:07 PM   #26
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As for me, I drive too. Judging bums me out most of the time. Just put 2K miles on my 35 beater.
I drove my '51 500 miles round trip to go to my 59th high school class reunion last month. The car performed great, but none of my classmates noticed it. I guess all of the car guys died. I thought I would be a hit, showing up in the same kind of car I was driving to school in 1959, but nobody cared. I did, however, get great satisfaction by doing it.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:29 PM   #27
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How did a simple question about the head configuration of a screw turn into a question about the virtues or lack thereof of authenticity?
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:37 PM   #28
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"To each his own."
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:33 PM   #29
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Bought mine from Roy. Not sure the fordbolts situation as of late.
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Old 09-09-2019, 02:19 AM   #30
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David...ANSWER to your question....too much weak beer !
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:44 AM   #31
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I drove my '51 500 miles round trip to go to my 59th high school class reunion last month. The car performed great, but none of my classmates noticed it. I guess all of the car guys died. I thought I would be a hit, showing up in the same kind of car I was driving to school in 1959, but nobody cared. I did, however, get great satisfaction by doing it.
Last week end someone was visiting someone in my cul de sac and driving his new Hummer around. I was going to drive my 1933 ford around to "impress" him. But then I realized that he probably would not even care about seeing my car, so I kept my car in the garage. Enjoy you car and forget what others think.
Several years ago, I had a young man tell me that he wouldn't watch any movies made before 1980. crazy world.. Old is bad...New is good.
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:24 AM   #32
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David, Here's another oddity...The speedometer cable to firewall(dash) clip on 1935/36 passenger cars is held in place by a 1/4"-20 x 1 round head machine screw (26547-S2). But the same clip on pickups and panel deliveries is held in place by a 12-24 x 1" round head screw (26547-S2). I know this because I tried in vain to force a 1/4" screw into the 12-24 clinch nut hole in my 35 panel delivery firewall.
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Old 09-09-2019, 08:54 AM   #33
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Question...
My green book has pictures of screws in the back of the book.
They have listing of screws used...
I don't even see 1/4 20 1.25 screws listed? I see 1/4 20 .75 these are used for transmission floor cover, right.
Are these green parts books limited?
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:34 AM   #34
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Frank, By the time the green bible was published 12+ years after 1935/36, a lot of the special fastners were either obsoleted or superseded by more common "fits-all" fastners.

If you look at fastener listings closer to the 35-36 time frame, you will see these screws listed.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:03 AM   #35
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:15 AM   #36
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:31 AM   #37
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For those with pre-WWII Fords who are interested in the original details, like Don, Kube, Michael, myself, and others, the green book, published in 1948, is the last place we look for reliable information regarding how those cars and trucks were put together. Reprints and originals of the pre-WWII chassis and body parts catalogues are readily available at reasonable prices with only one exception (the 1933 catalogs are extremely rare in original form and were never reproduced) and even in that instance the catalogues of the 1934 model year include the information covering the '33s.
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Old 09-09-2019, 11:45 AM   #38
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:23 AM   #39
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"To each his own."
And yes of couse it's "to each his own" as you always seem to wind up saying here on most of these debate type posts. It's not always about being correct for judging purposes. For me, It's about keeping my cars as correct as possible regardless of what the judges say, and I totally love driving my cars. Just drove 1448 miles to and from a great EFV8 Club Central National Meet in Auburn, Indiana, and my 35 fordor odometer now reads 74,900 original miles, of which I have driven it 33,900 of those miles in the last 7 to 8 years.

Regarding the original post, every original 35 Ford that I own now, or have owned in the past, has/had flat head screws with countersunk washers holding the floor boards in place, including those on either side of the sheet metal transmission cover.
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:55 AM   #40
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Thanks, it makes good sense that flat head screws are used on a flat service. My 1933 had a mixture of flat head and oval head, they all look very old. I wonder if oval head 1/4 20 1.25 screws were originally used somewhere else on the vehicle and some were mistakenly dropped into the flat head screw bucket? Either way, Flat head is the way to go. I too have no intention of showing my car but just want it to be as close to original as possible, except I installed a brass tim gear after my original composite one was shreaded
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