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Old 10-24-2019, 07:17 PM   #1
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I have found 2 places to make my windshield header for my woodie.
the one that is local has a pattern for a 42, but not a 41. so my question is, are they the same or diff?


other outfit does have the pattern for the 41, but I prefer buying local, as I have dealt with the local guys 20 yrs ago.


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Old 10-25-2019, 08:37 AM   #2
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In the July/August, 2017 issue of the V-8 Times there is an article on the differences of the one year only 1942 Ford. Of all the changes listed the article does not mention the cowl section of the body. The article was written by Fred Killian the technical advisor for the 1941/1942 Ford for the V-8 Club. I would contact Fred and I'm sure he can answer your question.
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Old 10-25-2019, 08:40 AM   #3
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Since no one has responded let me suggest you inquire at Kline Bros. in Manchester Pa. a well recognized Ford woodie reproduction shop.Tom Kline will have the answer for sure. Don't know where you are located and I understand you like to deal local. Best to contact Klines by email woodywagons@msn.com Hope this will help. Bill
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:31 AM   #4
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Thank you Bill, that is the problem. he doesnt know and only has the 42 template and told me I needed to figure it out.................


woodie, any chance you can tell me how to reach Fred Kline?
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Ronn, the V-8 Club, for obvious reasons, does not publish private phone numbers, what they do however is publish their address. What they recommend, is to send your question along with a self addressed, stamped envelope. If you need an answer quickly, I would contact the V-8 Club at info@earlyfordv8.org and give them your contact information and have Fred Killian contact you. I can however give you Fred's address, if you aren't in a hurry. Sorry I can't be more helpful. The Kline brothers did my wood and I couldn't be happier with their work, they are true craftsman and nice guys.
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"Mr Texas" has just completed a full restoration of a 41 Ford wagon. Wood by Ron Heiden of Encinitas Ca. Maybe he has an informed comment on your situation.. Bill
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"Mr Texas" has just completed a full restoration of a 41 Ford wagon. Wood by Ron Heiden of Encinitas Ca. Maybe he has an informed comment on your situation.. Bill
41 one year only and 42-48 have little wood in common.
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"woodie, any chance you can tell me how to reach Fred Kline?"


These guys, maybe? > http://www.klinebrothersbodyshop.com...lision-repairs
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No Pete, the gentleman I advised Ronn to contact was the advisor for the V-8 Club, 1941/1942 Ford, was Fred Killian, not Kline. I'm fairly sure the website you suggest is not the Kline brothers from the Kline Family Workshop in Manchester PA. Unless they branched out, Tom and Mike specialize in Woodie, Station Wagon woodwork, not full restorations.
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Then, it must be these guys:

Kline Family Workshop
Automotive Woodworking
3225 York Haven Road
Manchester, PA 17345
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Woodie Pro's > http://oldwoodies.com/resource-woodies-pros.htm


Classified Ads > http://oldwoodies.com/4sale.htm
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Old 10-25-2019, 04:08 PM   #12
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yes the kline brothers...... they only have a 42 pattern and mine is completely gone.


guy in Cali is the one people are leary of.
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yes the kline brothers...... they only have a 42 pattern and mine is completely gone.


guy in Cali is the one people are leary of.
Which guy in California? There's more than one wood guy in California and most are very reputable..
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TJ, the company that they are referring to usually advertises parts on E-Bay, but you need to read the fine print. The price is only available if you have them build the entire body. When I went to Wavecrest the CA people said to avoid them. As you state, most are very honest and don't need to resort to deceptive advertising to get jobs, in fact the good ones have a waiting list.
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TJ, the company that they are referring to usually advertises parts on E-Bay, but you need to read the fine print. The price is only available if you have them build the entire body. When I went to Wavecrest the CA people said to avoid them. As you state, most are very honest and don't need to resort to deceptive advertising to get jobs, in fact the good ones have a waiting list.
Thanks for the info. I was not aware of a company that uses those tactics. That clarifies the previous statement. I was afraid the previous statement could cast a shadow on the good guys when there was no identification of the bad guy.
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That's the great thing about the "Woodie Community". When you get down to it, it's really a small group of people, promoting the same type of vehicle. Any info you need about certain vendors etc. and you will have several people let you know where to go for your parts and who to avoid.
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There is one wood maker in California that is a complete fraud and crook. He advertises on ebay. They often change their name as well. He has been banned from advertising in the Woodie Club magazine. His name is Chris Marks. Current ebay handle is vintageautopartsrus. Run Forrest run.
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Old 10-27-2019, 07:51 AM   #18
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interesting.......because that guy on ebay actually quoted me a price for only the two parts I wtd. The header and the rear left drivers post.


but now I am skeptical.
Klines made wood for my Buick 20 yrs ago and was very happy with the resluts, but they wont be able to make that 41 header wo a pattern.


will try ron heiden
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The shop is Orange, Ca., is the one you should steer clear of.

These woodie guys are all in Southern California:

Ron Heiden does excellent work, he is near San Diego, Ca.
http://www.heidenswoodworking.com/He...king/Home.html

Wood N Carr, Doug Carr, Signal Hill, Ca., near Los Angeles
http://www.woodncarr.net/


Messano Woodworks
Restorations and wood sets, replacement wood parts also available
Chris Messano
211 South Mesa Street
San Pedro, CA 90731
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Nickels' Automotive Woodworking Traverse City MI has some good press.
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