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TEX29 · 04-25-2016, 08:34 PM

Complete 1940 Banjo rearend to Pate swapmeet, 3.78 ratio, brakes removed to sell separate,spring as well. Thoughts on the going price? I just want to be fair...

swoopNZ · 04-25-2016, 08:45 PM

$450

Lawson Cox · 04-25-2016, 09:51 PM

If it is good.

ford38v8 · 04-25-2016, 10:10 PM

I'd agree with both of the above, but with one suggestion: Disassemble the axles and housings from the banjo, sell the housings and axles separately for more $$ or everything as a package. Let the buyers see what they are paying for and you won't take it back home.

banjo 250 with decent gears
axles 25 ~150 ea depending on condition
housings 25 ~ 75 the pair depending on condition

But I haven't bought any for a bunch of years, so what do I know?

TEX29 · 04-26-2016, 08:30 AM

Prices are up in N Z I see!

47Sooner · 04-26-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX29

Complete 1940 Banjo rearend to Pate swapmeet, 3.78 ratio, brakes removed to sell separate,spring as well. Thoughts on the going price? I just want to be fair...

Looks like bad weather for the Pate Swap this weekend. Storms on Fri and Sat.

Tim Ayers · 04-26-2016, 12:09 PM

Wow, that much now days? Didn't realize they've crept up there in price.

sidevalve8ba · 04-26-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swoopNZ

$450

Is that New Zealand dollars or US dollars?

TEX29 · 04-26-2016, 12:49 PM

I think I'll ask $300. Sound about right???

Tim Ayers · 04-26-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX29

I think I'll ask $300. Sound about right???

It's been about 15 years since I've bought one, but I paid $100 for two of them. They were both complete with brakes, torque tubes, and radius rods. They also had 3.78 rears.

I guess taking into consideration inflation and other old Ford part factors, $300 is reasonable if it's in great shape. Maybe ask $300 and take $250. They are a pain to lug around. If I was taking it to a swap, I'd want it to sell.

flatford39 · 04-26-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX29

I think I'll ask $300. Sound about right???

I just bought one for $175.00. Be prepared to negotiate. The $450.00 number maybe good in New Zealand but they are a lot cheaper here.

325w · 04-26-2016, 08:23 PM

I gave the last one I had away. Brakes and all. Too heavy for old guys to handle.

flat-v8 · 04-26-2016, 08:50 PM

I sure remember when it was way out at the Pate Museum of Transportation, that was a fantastic swap meet, deals galore! But really bad when it rained, then you needed waders to get through the mud! What Awesome Memories of the Pate Swap Meet.

JM 35 Sedan · 04-26-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by flatford39

I just bought one for $175.00. Be prepared to negotiate. The $450.00 number maybe good in New Zealand but they are a lot cheaper here.

I agree with flatford39. I saw a "complete" original 40 banjo rear at the Fitchburg, MA swap meet last week with a $250 asking price tag, and I believe I could have bought it for $225, or maybe even $200. Now if a complete 40 rear has been rebuilt with all new bearings, seals, and maybe a new set of gears, all setup with the proper ring to pinion gear backlash and bearing preloads, and all new/rebuilt brake components, this rear would command a much higher price.
Buying a used original banjo rear that is supposed to be in good condition, can be a real disappointment when it is taken apart and everything has been completely checked out. I can't tell you haw many of these supposedly good rears I have bought in the past that have had bad axles, axle housings, gear sets, drive shafts, etc. In many cases it's a crapshoot and you may wind up with some good components, or you may not.

19Fordy · 04-27-2016, 08:27 AM

Since it's not a complete rear:
Be realistic and sell it for $150 so you won't have to lug it around or store it anymore.
As stated above, buying one is a gamble. Put yourself in the buyer's shoes.
What would you pay if you didn't know the history and it wasn't a complete rear?

V12Bill · 04-27-2016, 10:02 AM

I paid $100 fora 37 - 38 rear at Carlisle about 5 years ago. I swapped the 3:78 gears and one axle and saved the other axle.

JM 35 Sedan · 03-17-2017, 10:56 AM

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Ol' Ron · 03-17-2017, 12:11 PM

This is the reason why I use late model rear ends. This restoration thing can be expensive for just a driver.

V8COOPMAN · 03-17-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

This is the reason why I use late model rear ends. This restoration thing can be expensive for just a driver.

Not tryin' to be a wise-ass here, but you could use the same analogy when it comes to resurrecting a Chevy engine instead of a flathead. Just sayin', guys! DD

Ol' Ron · 03-17-2017, 08:01 PM

Nope, gota keep the Flathead

04-25-2016, 08:34 PM	#1
TEX29 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hoodlum City, Texas Posts: 63	What's it worth? Complete 1940 Banjo rearend to Pate swapmeet, 3.78 ratio, brakes removed to sell separate,spring as well. Thoughts on the going price? I just want to be fair...

04-25-2016, 08:45 PM	#2
swoopNZ MEMBER EMERITUS Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,380	Re: What's it worth? $450

04-25-2016, 09:51 PM	#3
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: What's it worth? If it is good. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

04-25-2016, 10:10 PM	#4
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,635	Re: What's it worth? I'd agree with both of the above, but with one suggestion: Disassemble the axles and housings from the banjo, sell the housings and axles separately for more $$ or everything as a package. Let the buyers see what they are paying for and you won't take it back home. banjo 250 with decent gears axles 25 ~150 ea depending on condition housings 25 ~ 75 the pair depending on condition But I haven't bought any for a bunch of years, so what do I know? __________________ Alan

04-26-2016, 08:30 AM	#5
TEX29 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hoodlum City, Texas Posts: 63	Re: What's it worth? Prices are up in N Z I see!

04-26-2016, 12:09 PM	#7
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,177	Re: What's it worth? Wow, that much now days? Didn't realize they've crept up there in price.

04-26-2016, 12:49 PM	#9
TEX29 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hoodlum City, Texas Posts: 63	Re: What's it worth? I think I'll ask $300. Sound about right???

04-26-2016, 08:23 PM	#12
325w Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 379	Re: What's it worth? I gave the last one I had away. Brakes and all. Too heavy for old guys to handle.

04-26-2016, 08:50 PM	#13
flat-v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Magnolia Texas Posts: 586	Re: What's it worth? I sure remember when it was way out at the Pate Museum of Transportation, that was a fantastic swap meet, deals galore! But really bad when it rained, then you needed waders to get through the mud! What Awesome Memories of the Pate Swap Meet.

04-27-2016, 08:27 AM	#15
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: What's it worth? Since it's not a complete rear: Be realistic and sell it for $150 so you won't have to lug it around or store it anymore. As stated above, buying one is a gamble. Put yourself in the buyer's shoes. What would you pay if you didn't know the history and it wasn't a complete rear? Last edited by 19Fordy; 04-27-2016 at 09:11 AM.

04-27-2016, 10:02 AM	#16
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: What's it worth? I paid $100 fora 37 - 38 rear at Carlisle about 5 years ago. I swapped the 3:78 gears and one axle and saved the other axle.

03-17-2017, 10:56 AM	#17
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: What's it worth? Deleted __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein* Last edited by JM 35 Sedan; 03-17-2017 at 11:12 AM.

03-17-2017, 12:11 PM	#18
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,857	Re: What's it worth? This is the reason why I use late model rear ends. This restoration thing can be expensive for just a driver.

03-17-2017, 08:01 PM	#20
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,857	Re: What's it worth? Nope, gota keep the Flathead