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Old 01-15-2016, 12:29 PM   #1
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Anyone know why Henry chose to call his two door model a "tudor" other than the obvious play on words? And how does everyone pronounce it "two-door" or like "tudor" as in the English royal family?

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Old 01-15-2016, 12:52 PM   #2
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Same with four door, he spelled it fordor. Probably because they didn't have
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:55 PM   #3
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Haha, I like that one.

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Old 01-15-2016, 12:55 PM   #4
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Anyone know why Henry chose to call his two door model a "tudor" other than the obvious play on words?
Sounds better than 'Coach'!
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Henry did not waste anything including extra letters! Wayne
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Maybe Henry had English aristocracy roots going back to the Tudor family???
I had always thought the "Fordor" was so-named during the Model T era to take advantage of Henry's last name = "FORDor". So, why not by extension apply this logic to the two-door model = "Tudor"? I wonder if there was any snickering back then about this playing around with body style nomenclature? 'Seems to me that Henry was not the only one to use "Tudor Sedan" in his cars' nomenclature. Did he come up with this twist on spelling or did others after him simply follow suit and apply the name "Tudor Sedan" to their marques? Not all manufacturers did this, of course, still clinging to the standard "Two-door" designation.
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My guess, and it is only a guess since I have never read it anywhere, is that he named the Fordor that because it had the word "Ford" and the Tudor just followed the pattern.

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Someone here on this 'A' section of the Ford Barn Forum must also own a Ford Model 'T'. Can you tell us what Henry called his 1926-'27 two-seat sedan with only two doors?

I know that the rest of the American automobile manufacturers referred to it as a 'Coach'.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Henry calculated how many less typewriter ribbons would be needed without the extra "O".
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Old 01-15-2016, 01:35 PM   #10
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I have heard it pronounced both ways. I call them Tudor
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Someone here on this 'A' section of the Ford Barn Forum must also own a Ford Model 'T'. Can you tell us what Henry called his 1926-'27 two-seat sedan with only two doors?

I know that the rest of the American automobile manufacturers referred to it as a 'Coach'.
Well, I think this starts back in 1915 when the Centerdoor Sedan body was built for Ford. It was called the Sedan for years. Folks now call them a Centerdoor, but like the term 'AR', that was never Ford's word. In 1923 the Centerdoor body was still offered and still called the Sedan but they introduced a Four-dour version of the Sedan body and it was called a Fordor Sedan. In 1924, the Centerdoor bodystyle was dropped and the Tudor Sedan body was introduced. So it was 1923 & '24 model year when they introduced the Fordor & Tudor names.
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Thanks for the great info. I always said "tudor" instead of "two door" also.

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I think it was a play on words, to avoid calling it coach, which chevy used. I pronounce it two door, because calling a fordor fordur would sould silly, and they should match.
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That centerdoor sedan was one of the prettiest body styles for the T. If I was young enough and foolish enough to subject myself to the rigors of owning Model T's, the centerdoor would be one, and the 26-27 coupe would be the other.
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Maybe Henry had English aristocracy roots going back to the Tudor family???
I had always thought the "Fordor" was so-named during the Model T era to take advantage of Henry's last name = "FORDor". So, why not by extension apply this logic to the two-door model = "Tudor"? I wonder if there was any snickering back then about this playing around with body style nomenclature? 'Seems to me that Henry was not the only one to use "Tudor Sedan" in his cars' nomenclature. Did he come up with this twist on spelling or did others after him simply follow suit and apply the name "Tudor Sedan" to their marques? Not all manufacturers did this, of course, still clinging to the standard "Two-door" designation.
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I think it was a play on words, to avoid calling it coach, which chevy used. I pronounce it two door, because calling a fordor fordur would sould silly, and they should match.
Here in the Antipodes, I grew up thinking it was pronounced like the English monarchs. When I discovered the term "Fordor", it made sense that it should be pronounced "Two Door". I'm surprised that both versions are in use in the US!

I wonder if there are any original advertising films with a soundtrack that would provide evidence of the officially sanctioned pronunciation from the era when the car was being sold?
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Thanks Brent. I figured someone would pop in with the correct info and dates. jiml...
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That centerdoor sedan was one of the prettiest body styles for the T. If I was young enough and foolish enough to subject myself to the rigors of owning Model T's, the centerdoor would be one, and the 26-27 coupe would be the other.


I too shared the sentiment that I would like to own a Centerdoor (-which BTW, Budd sold that same body to Dodge Bros & possibly Chevrolet) until I drove one. For me, they had WAY more against them than going for them. They are full of blind spots, they are heavy, they are like being in a Dutch Oven, and there is no leg room.

As for the prettiest bodystyles, I think the picture below is the 2nd prettiest (2nd to the 09 Coupe) and as soon as I finish the restoration on my '15 Touring, I plan to start the restoration of a '10 Tourabout identical to this one. There is just something about the wind blowing up your pants leg as you are driving alongside!
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I believe that there is a lot of slang name for body styles for the model a such. As an 60B. Is a Fodor and people also call it a Briggs,a leather Back,or a blind back !!!
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I've never heard it pronounced any other way other than 'chewdah' down here in Oz, even Chevy owners pronounce it that way here. But then we also call a phaeton a tourer here as well.
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