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rbecraft · 09-08-2015, 09:44 AM

I'm looking for a bushing remover for a transmission tail shaft on 1950 Ford car 3-speed standard transmission. I want to change this bushing with the transmission in the car. I understand there is a puller made for this job but don't know where to rent one or buy one. I've always had luck with the Ford Barn members--here's hoping.

D. Jones · 09-08-2015, 09:54 AM

I'm confused. I don't remember a bushing in a transmission at that location. All I can recall is the bearing and seal. If there is a bushing it would most likely be difficult to remove without tearing down the transmission. The seal on the other hand isn't too difficult to pry out and there is a tool for removing them.

Mike51Merc · 09-08-2015, 10:06 AM

I never heard of a tool to pull the bushing with the trans assembled in the car. I have heard of pushing the old bushing in with the new one, but I'd never do that.

At best, I've removed just the tailshaft housing, leaving the front of the trans in place. With the housing removed, you can drive the bushing out from either the inside or outside. I used a small chisel to drive out the old one and a piece of wood with a mallet to drive in the new one. After installing the bushing, make sure the yoke glides in smoothly before reinstalling the housing.

JWL · 09-08-2015, 10:19 AM

Yes, there are(were) Ford special tools for removing the tail housing bushings with trans fully assembled and in the car. It is a hollow tubular thing with thin sidewall and many longitudinal slits, like the expander it is, and a small lip at the inner end for grip at the inner end of bushing. After removing the driveshaft and seal, the tool is compressed with your hand and moved over the tailshaft and inside the bushing until the expander "lip" is inside. The outer end of the tool is solid with a bolt for wrenching against the tailshaft thus pulling the bushing from the housing.

My suggestion is to find a Ford Service Department which has some gray hair and ask about borrowing their tools.

JSeery · 09-08-2015, 10:27 AM

No idea on this transmission, but on some transmissions you can use a slide hammer with a jaw attachment that fits inside the bushing and catches on the inside lip.

Kahuna · 09-08-2015, 10:51 AM

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I just had to have this done on my wife's off topic car. The mechanic used a tool kinda as described by JWL. This was a girl mechanic, by the way. She had that thing out in minutes, after removing the seal. This is on a late model car, but the transmission output end is similar to a 50's Ford. I would think any shop could do this.
Cost was 1 hr in time. $ 85 bucks

Bruce Lancaster · 09-08-2015, 11:13 AM

This illustrates why your profile should give a general idea of where you live...one of our V8 club members has one of these things, and probably there are several people on the barn who have them...most old car people are very helpful.
I don't have one solely because early Fords don't have tail shaft housings!

bbrocksr · 09-08-2015, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbecraft

I'm looking for a bushing remover for a transmission tail shaft on 1950 Ford car 3-speed standard transmission. I want to change this bushing with the transmission in the car. I understand there is a puller made for this job but don't know where to rent one or buy one. I've always had luck with the Ford Barn members--here's hoping.

I've got one, Works great. Where are you located?
Bill

bbrocksr · 09-08-2015, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

This illustrates why your profile should give a general idea of where you live...one of our V8 club members has one of these things, and probably there are several people on the barn who have them...most old car people are very helpful.
I don't have one solely because early Fords don't have tail shaft housings!

I was under the impression that Early Fords include 49-53 which have tail shaft housing bushings.
Bill

Bruce Lancaster · 09-08-2015, 12:12 PM

Early Fords in my book refers to real Henry's, up through '47-8...Except for engine, the '49's were the first modern Fords, with architecture that is still recognizable on the few rear drive cars still being built. If you could show a 1949 Ford Dealer mechanic a late Mustang or Crown Vic in need of a new tail bushing, he'd know what to do! If you sent a late Mustang mechanic to look over a transmission leak under a '48 Ford...Holy Cow!

40 Deluxe · 09-08-2015, 12:18 PM

rbecraft, Most of us retired (or near retirement) mechanics have these tools in our boxes. They are probably still available from the tool trucks. Look for a a Snap-On, Mac, Matco, or Cornwell truck parked at a shop and ask. At least look at the picture in their catalog and then check out a pawn shop or used tool dealer. Or try ebay or craigslist.

V8COOPMAN · 09-08-2015, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Lancaster

Early Fords in my book refers to real Henry's, up through '47-8...Except for engine, the '49's were the first modern Fords. Holy Cow!

I too have referred to the '48 Ford as the last "REAL" Ford for umpteen years now, and for the same reasons. DD

forty-niner · 09-08-2015, 03:18 PM

There is an oil return groove at the bottom, outside the bush, in the tail housing.
Pull the seal, warm up the housing-not glowing or real hot, hook at the bottom so you don't score the bore for the bush. While still warm the new bush will go in easy-especially if you cool it 1st.
Lots less invasive than removing housing-ask me how I know.

Barry-ct · 09-08-2015, 06:37 PM

JWL is correct, I used that tool many times on C-4 or C-6 trannys in the 70's before my parts career. I can still see it hanging in the tool room of my first dealership!

rbecraft · 09-10-2015, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrocksr

I've got one, Works great. Where are you located?
Bill

Thanks for your quick reply. I am definitely interested in renting or borrowing your tool, I hate to put out the money for a one-time job but if you can see your way to lending me yours, I promise to return it to you asap, gladly offer a deposit to secure the tool if you like. I'll also reimburse you for postage when I return the tool. E-mail me at [email protected] Ralph Becraft 527 E Buckingham Dr, Lecanto, FL 34461. I'll be anxiously waiting for your reply. Thank you!

JWL · 09-10-2015, 09:06 AM

There are various sizes of these tools. One size does not fit all.

George/Maine · 09-10-2015, 10:09 AM

I did one on a 59 and took the housing off and knocked it out to back.

Bruce Lancaster · 09-10-2015, 10:34 AM

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ller&showall=1

(earlier post with picture)

09-08-2015, 09:44 AM	#1
rbecraft Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lecanto, FL Posts: 34	Transmission tail shaft bushing remover I'm looking for a bushing remover for a transmission tail shaft on 1950 Ford car 3-speed standard transmission. I want to change this bushing with the transmission in the car. I understand there is a puller made for this job but don't know where to rent one or buy one. I've always had luck with the Ford Barn members--here's hoping. Last edited by rbecraft; 09-20-2015 at 07:40 AM. Reason: solved job completed

09-08-2015, 09:54 AM	#2
D. Jones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 514	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover I'm confused. I don't remember a bushing in a transmission at that location. All I can recall is the bearing and seal. If there is a bushing it would most likely be difficult to remove without tearing down the transmission. The seal on the other hand isn't too difficult to pry out and there is a tool for removing them.

09-08-2015, 10:06 AM	#3
Mike51Merc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,582	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover I never heard of a tool to pull the bushing with the trans assembled in the car. I have heard of pushing the old bushing in with the new one, but I'd never do that. At best, I've removed just the tailshaft housing, leaving the front of the trans in place. With the housing removed, you can drive the bushing out from either the inside or outside. I used a small chisel to drive out the old one and a piece of wood with a mallet to drive in the new one. After installing the bushing, make sure the yoke glides in smoothly before reinstalling the housing.

09-08-2015, 10:19 AM	#4
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover Yes, there are(were) Ford special tools for removing the tail housing bushings with trans fully assembled and in the car. It is a hollow tubular thing with thin sidewall and many longitudinal slits, like the expander it is, and a small lip at the inner end for grip at the inner end of bushing. After removing the driveshaft and seal, the tool is compressed with your hand and moved over the tailshaft and inside the bushing until the expander "lip" is inside. The outer end of the tool is solid with a bolt for wrenching against the tailshaft thus pulling the bushing from the housing. My suggestion is to find a Ford Service Department which has some gray hair and ask about borrowing their tools.

09-08-2015, 10:27 AM	#5
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover No idea on this transmission, but on some transmissions you can use a slide hammer with a jaw attachment that fits inside the bushing and catches on the inside lip.

09-08-2015, 10:51 AM	#6
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I just had to have this done on my wife's off topic car. The mechanic used a tool kinda as described by JWL. This was a girl mechanic, by the way. She had that thing out in minutes, after removing the seal. This is on a late model car, but the transmission output end is similar to a 50's Ford. I would think any shop could do this. Cost was 1 hr in time. $ 85 bucks

09-08-2015, 11:13 AM	#7
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover This illustrates why your profile should give a general idea of where you live...one of our V8 club members has one of these things, and probably there are several people on the barn who have them...most old car people are very helpful. I don't have one solely because early Fords don't have tail shaft housings!

09-08-2015, 12:12 PM	#10
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover Early Fords in my book refers to real Henry's, up through '47-8...Except for engine, the '49's were the first modern Fords, with architecture that is still recognizable on the few rear drive cars still being built. If you could show a 1949 Ford Dealer mechanic a late Mustang or Crown Vic in need of a new tail bushing, he'd know what to do! If you sent a late Mustang mechanic to look over a transmission leak under a '48 Ford...Holy Cow!

09-08-2015, 12:18 PM	#11
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,778	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover rbecraft, Most of us retired (or near retirement) mechanics have these tools in our boxes. They are probably still available from the tool trucks. Look for a a Snap-On, Mac, Matco, or Cornwell truck parked at a shop and ask. At least look at the picture in their catalog and then check out a pawn shop or used tool dealer. Or try ebay or craigslist.

09-08-2015, 03:18 PM	#13
forty-niner Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 12	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover There is an oil return groove at the bottom, outside the bush, in the tail housing. Pull the seal, warm up the housing-not glowing or real hot, hook at the bottom so you don't score the bore for the bush. While still warm the new bush will go in easy-especially if you cool it 1st. Lots less invasive than removing housing-ask me how I know.

09-08-2015, 06:37 PM	#14
Barry-ct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Newington, Connecticut Posts: 1,374	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover JWL is correct, I used that tool many times on C-4 or C-6 trannys in the 70's before my parts career. I can still see it hanging in the tool room of my first dealership! __________________ Barry 50 F-1

09-10-2015, 09:06 AM	#16
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover There are various sizes of these tools. One size does not fit all.

09-10-2015, 10:09 AM	#17
George/Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mid coast Maine Posts: 1,878	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover I did one on a 59 and took the housing off and knocked it out to back.

09-10-2015, 10:34 AM	#18
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Transmission tail shaft bushing remover https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ller&showall=1 (earlier post with picture)