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Old 01-30-2020, 05:22 PM   #1
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Default 1933 vs 1934 v8 engine spash pans

Are there differences between these two? can they be used interchangeably?
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Old 01-30-2020, 06:20 PM   #2
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They're are not the same. There were two versions of the '33 V8 pans, very early and all other depending on which version of the '33 front cross member is in the frame. Both versions are longer front to back than their '34 counterparts and they cannot be used on '34 chassis without shortening them. (Which would be something of a crime as they are much scarcer than the '34 pans.) There was but one version of the '34 pans and they can be used on a '33 chassis without modification.
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Old 01-30-2020, 06:54 PM   #3
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Wow.. I guess the model B 33 splash pans are even more scarce

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Old 01-30-2020, 07:12 PM   #4
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Default Re: 1933 vs 1934 v8 engine spash pans

34 V8 set
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Old 01-30-2020, 08:42 PM   #5
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Default Re: 1933 vs 1934 v8 engine spash pans

'33 and '34 four-cylinder engine splash pans are the same, unlike the V8s as they started out shorter to begin with and surprisingly, they seem to be no scarcer than '33 V8 engine splash pans.
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:22 AM   #6
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Is this a different part that goes under the fender?
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:43 AM   #7
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Is the a different part that goes under the fender?
Yes, that goes between the fender and engine of the car, runs from the radiator to the firewall (if you will) and those are different from 33 to 34 as well up at the front by the radiator (I believe).


AND David J........IF i didn't know better, those look early similar to 1935 engine tins. Obliviously David & Don will chime in for sure!!!!
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:49 AM   #8
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Here is what the late '35's look like. The earlier ones don't have the gills or louvers
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:17 AM   #9
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The inner fenders panels shown in your photo from Speedway Motors are '34s and differ from any of the three (or more) known varieties of the '33 inner fender panels. As a result, they would have to be modified to fit true '33 front fenders, which are not the same as '34 front fenders. The amount of modification required is not major.

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Those are indeed '34 engine splash pans in David J's photo.
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:09 AM   #10
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Here is a early take off 1934 Ford Engine Pan I found at the Hershey Fall Meet this year. It has all of its original factory black paint on it. Price I paid was $200.00 and i gladly gave it.
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:11 AM   #11
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The inner fenders panels shown in your photo from Speedway Motors are '34s and differ from any of the three (or more) known varieties of the '33 inner fender panels. As a result, they would have to be modified to fit true '33 front fenders, which are not the same as '34 front fenders. The amount of modification required is not major.

Robert,

Those are indeed '34 engine splash pans in David J's photo.
Thanks David, I am amazed at how "similar" they are to 35's!!!! I'll have to do some more studying to note the differences!!! Thanks for the homework assignment once again!!!
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:31 AM   #12
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I am not sure my 33 model b has those splash aprons. I will check. Never knew they should be there? The Things ya Gotta Know!
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Here's a pair of what I call number 2's . Note the hole for the early headlight support rod is still there . The hole for the newer type support rod is there also . That is why the number 2 type fits these . Next is a number 4 type . Note the dimple is still there but has no hole . Note the oval hole for the HL support rod is clocked different . Also note it does not have the extensions for the hood bumpers . The last is what makes it a 4 instead of a 3 . Last [ right ] is type 6-7 and has no dimple and the blister is full length . Fender pic shows a dimpled 33 fender without the hole . Fender pic also shows a 33 front crossmember and radiator supports .
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the three (or more) known varieties of the '33 inner fender panels. As a result, they would have to be modified to fit true '33 front fenders, which are not the same as '34 front fenders. The amount of modification required is not major.
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Old 01-31-2020, 01:08 PM   #14
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Thanks for the photos...
I just looked a my car.. I have them on both sides..They look in great shape

Thanks to all you guys. for your help.

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Old 01-31-2020, 04:00 PM   #15
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Did type 6-7 come off a '33 or '34? I ask as it is relieved for outside-mounted shock absorbers.
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Old 01-31-2020, 04:03 PM   #16
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34 . Typical late one . Lemme know if you want better pics of these .
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Did type 6-7 come off a '33 or '34? I ask as it is relieved for outside-mounted shock absorbers.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:28 PM   #17
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I thought so regarding 6-7; I'll send you a PM regarding photos.
Thanks for offering.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:39 PM   #18
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David J, still looking for the early 33 front frame horn pix, inside and out.

Thanks again.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:08 PM   #19
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Frank West
Not sure what you were asking with this post, it started with engine tins and turned into fender splash aprons. SO here are both for 33, 4 cyl engine splash tins and 33 inner fender aprons.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:55 PM   #20
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Robert,


Great, you posted the four-cylinder pan photos; thank you. My FL computer recently died and took its photos with it (not all). Yes, this thread has taken an interesting journey. There's almost nothing holding on to the front fenders if the inner aprons are gone, for example. I'm glad that I never invested in re-printing original parts catalogs and service bulletins.
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