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Old 04-20-2019, 04:20 PM   #21
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I bought one of these tools today that claims it can clear and rejuvenate clogged grease fittings and lubrication points. Tomorrow I am going to give it a try.

My idea is to jack up the front end, and take as much load off the passenger side kingpin as possible and try and clear the greasejoint.

I am curious if any of you have used this tool before:

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Old 04-20-2019, 07:11 PM   #22
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On an old Chevy I warmed the tie rods and king pins with a small Benzine (sp) torch. Had the grease gun hooked to the fitting. Warmed the area and pumped grease. Worked to get the grease moving.
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Don't jump off that one story building, You might break something. Just try some of the good remedies suggested above...
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Old 04-20-2019, 07:32 PM   #24
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On an old Chevy I warmed the tie rods and king pins with a small Benzine (sp) torch. Had the grease gun hooked to the fitting. Warmed the area and pumped grease. Worked to get the grease moving.
Yes, I have done that same thing. It worked on the other two clogged fittings, but this one has really been stubborn. Tried both the torch and a heat gun, but no luck.
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Don't jump off that one story building, You might break something. Just try some of the good remedies suggested above...
Jump out a ground floor window, maybe???
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:40 AM   #26
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It has probably already been mentioned, but I would drop the drag link and the tie rod, so the three main components are free to move independently. (each wheel and the steering box). I would then carefully inspect each of the three elements to try and identify the source of the tightness. Just take everything from first principles. don't forget the tie rod ends and drag link joints.

Also check for correct alignment of all the joints and look for binding.

Then reconnect the tie rod and see if the spindles are still freely able to rotate. Then put the drag link on and recheck.

Hopefully while going through all of the above, something will present itself as the cause of the problem.

It may be worth bearing in mind that the steering box on those models were not the best, hence the move to the roller sector design on the 37 models.
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:44 PM   #27
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When these boxes get warn they don't work so well ,I put a NOS 35/36 worm and sector in a 32 box ,I didn't drive it but the feed back was very positive .If the gears are new they can be a Ok box ,
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:52 PM   #28
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how did you put a 36 gear set in a 32, isnt the sector shaft longer?
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:53 PM   #29
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Yes the gear set in the 32 is longer so the 35 spline barely clears the Chassis .I machined of some of the boss on the inside of the sector housing to allow it to come through more ,I may have more detail of what I did somewhere if your interested ,Ted
PS I do have shortened sector housings when running header's ,I may have used one of these ,,
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #30
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so, you get a 17 to 1 ratio out of it?
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:43 PM   #31
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Of topic , I don't want to take over Phartmans Thred ? ,but yes whatever 35 had I think 17to 1
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:50 PM   #32
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If you have a blockage and you put enough pressure on a zerk fitting it can push the zerk right out of the hole and take the threads with it. Then you have an additional problem. Been there done that.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:42 AM   #33
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If you have a blockage and you put enough pressure on a zerk fitting it can push the zerk right out of the hole and take the threads with it. Then you have an additional problem. Been there done that.
Oh yeaaaaaaaaah. I decided to back off a little on the muscle yesterday so that this wouldn't happen. I did manage to get a little penetrating oil through the zerk. But I am convinced now the bushing/kingpin has twisted in the axle, and cannot take grease. So next step is to replace the kingpins on either side and make certain they are correctly installed.

I don't know that there isn't a problem with the box and steering tube, but we'll get the front suspension right first, then go on to the rest of the steering system.

Thanks for all the help here. Stay tuned for another update, but it may be a while before I can assemble the parts I need for the job here.
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What about drilling through the bush ,it wouldn't matter if you touched the king pin ,in fact a little pocket there could be beneficial .
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Old 04-22-2019, 09:00 PM   #35
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What about drilling through the bush ,it wouldn't matter if you touched the king pin ,in fact a little pocket there could be beneficial .
Hmmmm...I will have to think about that. I was considering pulling out the pinch bolt, and giving the kingpin a whack to see if disturbing it would allow some grease into the zerk. Never thought about drilling through the bushing. Interesting.

I did mess with the adjustment nut on the steering box, loosened it up a bit. It might have helped a little, but not enough to make a difference.
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Not sure if this will help but ,We did a mercury 39 recently were the car was like a whale on the freeway it would want to take of left or right ,normal driving requires slight adjustments of the wheel as you go .This had no self centring so after a close inspection we realised that the King P bearings were up side down and were seized from getting water in them , Had to remove the axle and drive out the pins (what a Job ) its now a completely deferent car to drive ,The two parts of the bearings should rotate independent ,Follow Marts proses you might find something, We do use jacks under the tyres to take a bit of weight while its on jack stands then turn the wheel .for inspections ,
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:10 PM   #37
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The self righting steering wheel was a quite a new thing in the 1920s. Before that you would have to turn the steering wheel to get the front end straight again after a turn. Not something we think about, just something we think is normal.
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yup, if it wont self center, something is seized up
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:01 AM   #39
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What about drilling through the bush ,it wouldn't matter if you touched the king pin ,in fact a little pocket there could be beneficial .
I agree, better yet a small end mill that will give a flat bottom (hole)
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It would want to take off left or right ,normal driving requires slight adjustments of the wheel as you go .This had no self centring so after a close inspection we realised that the King P bearings were up side down and were seized from getting water in them.,
This sounds exactly like what my truck is doing. Normal driving on a straight road requires constant slight adjustments once the motor is warmed up.
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