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Old 03-13-2023, 07:19 AM   #1
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I was going to buy these 2 yrs ago and then the whole covid thing......

are they still being sold and whats the new price?
at the time they were 105. a piece

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They are advertising in the MARC & MAFCA magazine.
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Bert’s is selling the black walls for $150 and the white walls for $210. I’m not sure if there are better deals out there.
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:30 AM   #4
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thank you gentlemen!
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ronn, if you find a better price, would you post the info here?
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will do. I hardly see them even advertised.

did find Lucas for about 119. I thinks..............

also, looks like coker may have teamed up with Classic of Germany

Summit used to offer free shipping- not seeing that now. Looks like all costs went up.....
as in everything else.
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Old 03-14-2023, 10:19 AM   #7
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Lucas ,made in Vietnam, and the Excelsior tires are Nylon cord, not polyester.
Try Coker or Jegs, the latter has a discount offer for Excelsior. The Euro's are headquartered near Copenhagen, De. but not sure where the tires are constructed.

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Summit used to offer free shipping- not seeing that now. Looks like all costs went up.....
as in everything else.
Summitt Racing offers free shipping over $99 but charges $9.99 oversize fee for each tire.

Shipped 5 American Classic Radials to my door.

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Old 03-14-2023, 11:09 AM   #9
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Summitt Racing offers free shipping over $99 but charges $9.99 oversize fee for each tire.

Shipped 5 American Classic Radials to my door.

I tried putting 4 tires in my cart, just to see if it was free shipping. The shipping charge was $39. plus $9.99 for oversized. Maybe the shipping deal is done.
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Marc & MAFCA magazine.



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Old 03-14-2023, 05:15 PM   #11
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free shipping and no tax I believe- nice deal Joop.

any possibility of enlarging that ad, so I can get the info?
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Old 03-16-2023, 09:54 PM   #12
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I ended up buying a set of 4 from Jegs- excelsior

88. each and 10. oversize charge. free shipping

with NJ tax, 105. each

didnt think anything out there could be bought at this price.

may still buy a set of the europeans, for my other car..........
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Ronn,
Let me know how they perform. I need a cheap set of tires for my tudor.
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Old 03-17-2023, 07:02 AM   #14
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will do. could be a month or two before I drive on them.

I am not expecting much, at that price. Almost ordered a 2nd set........

all my tires are old and I want to start driving at least one of the cars this yr.
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Old 03-20-2023, 08:24 PM   #15
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tires arrived today and they look fine.
do have a gripe about Jegs shipping........... so they charge you an extra 10. per tire for oversize, but they put each one in a huge box, that could easily hold two?


and I wonder why America is run so inefficiently............ people are getting dumber by the minute! lol
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tires arrived today and they look fine.
do have a gripe about Jegs shipping........... so they charge you an extra 10. per tire for oversize, but they put each one in a huge box, that could easily hold two?


and I wonder why America is run so inefficiently............ people are getting dumber by the minute! lol
A few years ago, a couple of our club members were visiting Snyders and watched as an order for Australia was being prepared for shipping. They couldn't believe how the staff had no idea how the way they packed it made such a huge difference to the final cost for their customer. They had things like brake drums packed in a box with nothing else. Our guys asked why they don't fill the gap inside the drum with some of the smaller items. Turns out, no one, not even the managers had thought of it. They all set to and reduced the number of parcels by about 60%. I doubt the lesson learned is still told to new staff.
That said, don't feel America is special in this regard. We have a plentiful supply of people like that. Do want any of them???
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Are these tyres radial ply? I haven't seen them here.
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Are these tyres radial ply? I haven't seen them here.
To my knowledge, none of the tires listed in this thread, except the ones mentioned in post #8. are radials.
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To my knowledge, none of the tires listed in this thread, except the ones mentioned in post #8. are radials.
Thanks for that, Mr Cylinder! The choice of tyres here is very limited and not getting any better. I guess retailers can only justify carrying a limited range when there is a notion that tyres should not be more than 10 years old.
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if the tires are around 100. each, they will never be radial.


radials fetch a good bit more. aside from the radials performing better, Im not a fan of the look.
The excelsiors I bought have a very sturdy sidewall and are fine for the price. how long they last I dont know, but I dont drive as much as I would like anyway.
If youre doing major touring, then I would start looking at the european classics or better.
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ronn, post a photo when you get one mounted. I’m glad they look good, because the price is very good!
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if the tires are around 100. each, they will never be radial.


radials fetch a good bit more. aside from the radials performing better, Im not a fan of the look.
The excelsiors I bought have a very sturdy sidewall and are fine for the price. how long they last I dont know, but I dont drive as much as I would like anyway.
If youre doing major touring, then I would start looking at the european classics or better.
I think our long distance trips towing a camper would qualify for "major touring". For those trips, I now use 16" wheels and radial tyres for light trucks. That way, I get the mileage and weight carrying capacity. Original Model A wheels keep breaking.
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Old 03-23-2023, 05:45 AM   #23
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Original Model A wheels keep breaking.





tough when you live in the desert!




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ok, so I mounted 2 last night. first one nearly killed me. took an hour and was the toughest tire I ever mounted. the sidewalls are pretty thick.


2nd one I used dawn soap on the beads and had it on in 10 minutes.


went to fill them up and first one I pinched the tube! so back at it today!
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Radials fetch a good bit more. aside from the radials performing better, Im not a fan of the look.
Not sure what you don't like about the look of Radial tires. But to each his own.

I installed my American Classic Radials a couple of months ago and the car sure handles and rides better. Worth the price, so far.
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Not sure what you don't like about the look of Radial tires. But to each his own.




because they look like a hot rod and I prefer the original "skinnys"


dont care for 16s on my model As either, but I know half of the people on the barn do.
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Not sure what you don't like about the look of Radial tires. But to each his own.




because they look like a hot rod and I prefer the original "skinnys"
dont care for 16s on my model As either, but I know half of the people on the barn do.
????? Maybe you haven't seen the "Model A" radials...They are the same size as the bias ply tires and look pretty much like any other tire on a Model A but the handling is very much improved. My main driver has radials but the other 3 have biased plys for now but when they need tires they will get radials for sure.
By the way, I don't care for the looks of the 16" wheels on an A either...




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Because they look like a hot rod and I prefer the original "skinnys"

Dont care for 16s on my model As either, but I know half of the people on the barn do.
Hmmm, here's a picture of my "Hot Rad", 4.75-5.00Rx19 American Classic tires.

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thanks guys. the only radials Ive even seen on a model A looked "modern"
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A little off topic. But does anyone have experience with Pirelli Stella Biancas?
https://www.lucasclassictires.com/60...CA-60016PL.htm
Bias ply tires with a "V" speed rating. For those who drive over 100 mph . Look period correct for 16" wheels. Cheaper than radials but still pricey. Only comment I could find mentioned stiff, harsh riding.
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Hmmm, here's a picture of my "Hot Rad", 4.75-5.00Rx19 American Classic tires.


same colours as mine... what are they called?
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same colours as mine... what are they called?
Kewanee Green (lower) and Elkpoint Green (upper), Tacoma Cream wheels. I'm not sure if they are 100% accurate to original tho.

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ok, so I mounted 2 last night. first one nearly killed me. took an hour and was the toughest tire I ever mounted. the sidewalls are pretty thick.


2nd one I used dawn soap on the beads and had it on in 10 minutes.


went to fill them up and first one I pinched the tube! so back at it today!
Got a picture of them mounted up?
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tell me what you think..........
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I'm looking for used 21 inch white walls. If any of you barners is going to buy new white walls, I would be happy to buy the old white walls from you. I accept any condition e.g. slightly cracked, no tread or just dirty. Try me ....
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Ronn,
Nice! Look great.
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thanks SAJ- Ive seen some that look better, but not at this price.
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tell me what you think..........
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What is the overall diameter of the 4.50-19 tire? Most Model A tires are 4.75 /500-19.
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same as a 500 the 500 is just wider in width
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If you are wanting European Classics, we just got 180 of them today at Bertís Model A Center. All in stock. Modelastore.com
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New to the forum and need to increase my post count - great discussion just following for now - I just purchased a set of the 19inch European Classics-haven't installed them yet - They look great -
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they are a good looking tire, and supposedly better then the other inexpensive tires.


Please let us know how they run for you.
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I have Lucas tires that were made in England for $99.99 3 years ago,now $119.00,they are doing fine so far,they replaced the Sears Allstate tires from 1960 that still would hold air but were very cracked on the sidewalls.
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I have Lucas tires that were made in England for $99.99 3 years ago,now $119.00,they are doing fine so far,they replaced the Sears Allstate tires from 1960 that still would hold air but were very cracked on the sidewalls.
Yea, no. Lucas tires are made in Vietnam.
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and Europeans are made in Germany.........


Y do you have any suggestions for US made? most tires are made overseas.
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and Europeans are made in Germany.........


Y do you have any suggestions for US made? most tires are made overseas.
American Classic Radials??

But it kind of makes sense that tires are made overseas. We don't have a whole lot of Rubber Tree Plantaions in USA.
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that is a funny point,



the black forrest doesnt bear any rubber either, last I heard.........lol


I guess in the end, very little is made in America
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