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Walt Ebie · 10-03-2016, 01:44 PM

I'm about to embark on installing a temp probe pipe in my upper hose and would like to hear from anyone who's done it as to the best way to go about it. That is, first, remove the upper hose. But after that, did you measure and cut the hose and put the probe pipe in it and then put it on the rad and block as one piece? Or did you put it on, a piece at a time from the top down or bottom up? There must be one way that works easier than another and, if there is, I'd like to hear about it.

Jim/GA · 10-03-2016, 04:32 PM

"measure and cut the hose and put the probe pipe in it and then put it on the rad and block as one piece?"

There is really no single correct answer to this, but this is what I did.

You want the finished assembly of hoses and probe pipe to be the same length as your original upper hose, so measure the upper hose before you cut it.

Brianfrench65 · 10-03-2016, 05:08 PM

I put a new neck at the top of the head, that has a threaded port, specifically for the temperature probe. I did not have to cut (shorten) the upper hose.

Walt Ebie · 10-03-2016, 05:13 PM

Since I'm committed to the probe pipe in the hose, does anyone have some good hints on how to get the hose to slip on the rad and the block easier than plain old muscle power? Maybe talcum or some other trick that you used?

racingrufus · 10-03-2016, 05:17 PM

I also put the upper hose mount on the head for the temp probe. I could not use the pipe in the hose because I was useing a thermostat in upper hose. Dwayne

Jim/GA · 10-03-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Ebie

Since I'm committed to the probe pipe in the hose, does anyone have some good hints on how to get the hose to slip on the rad and the block easier than plain old muscle power? Maybe talcum or some other trick that you used?

Yes. Apply a thin film of Hylomar AF to the inside of the radiator hoses where they contact the radiator/block. They will slide on easy, they will not require a crazy tight hose clamp to keep them from weeping coolant, and they will come back off many years later with ease. (The rubber hose won't bond to the metal.)

I buy my Hylomar AF in a small tube from W.W. Grainger, but I am sure there are other dealers. It is amazing stuff.

Big hammer · 10-03-2016, 06:00 PM

Also if you warm up rubber it will make more pliable. Soaking it in hot! water, something I didn't do last time I put hoses on :-(

VFRhugh · 10-03-2016, 06:29 PM

I'm with #3. I installed the steel inline pipe with temperature connection. I works great but I pulled the hose to remove a thermostat and it's starting to rust from the inside after only three weeks. Using distilled water and Water Wetter.
Hugh

CarlG · 10-03-2016, 06:56 PM

I use one of these - solves several problems:

Has a place for the temp probe as well as a receptacle for a thermostat (and a hot water heater hose).

goodcar · 10-03-2016, 07:50 PM

Ditto

Bruce · 10-04-2016, 12:29 PM

If you use the probe tube, drill a hole in the (new) upper hose. Then cut the hose in half. Carve the hole so that when you insert the probe tube the little leg is sandwiched in the hole and the hose can be squeezed tightly together. Remember to put all four clamps on the hose, "dope" the cast Iron bits with ... Windex ... and stick it all together. If you've done a craftsmanly job, the red stripe will match up and the cut in the hose will be almost invisible.
A real CRAFTSMANLY job would be to use SST jam nuts/washers inside and outside a hole through the hose to sandwich the probe in the hose. I've seen vintage setups like that at swap meets. They were very pricy, but way-cool.

captndan · 10-05-2016, 08:55 AM

Grease?

d. · 10-05-2016, 05:18 PM

carl G, goodcar,
so where does one find this item? looks good.

10-03-2016, 01:44 PM	#1
Walt Ebie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Canton, OH Posts: 168	Installing a Temp probe I'm about to embark on installing a temp probe pipe in my upper hose and would like to hear from anyone who's done it as to the best way to go about it. That is, first, remove the upper hose. But after that, did you measure and cut the hose and put the probe pipe in it and then put it on the rad and block as one piece? Or did you put it on, a piece at a time from the top down or bottom up? There must be one way that works easier than another and, if there is, I'd like to hear about it.

10-03-2016, 04:32 PM	#2
Jim/GA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Young Harris, GA Posts: 1,821	Re: Installing a Temp probe "measure and cut the hose and put the probe pipe in it and then put it on the rad and block as one piece?" There is really no single correct answer to this, but this is what I did. You want the finished assembly of hoses and probe pipe to be the same length as your original upper hose, so measure the upper hose before you cut it. __________________ Jim Cannon Former MAFCA Technical Director "Have a Model A day!"

10-03-2016, 05:13 PM	#4
Walt Ebie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Canton, OH Posts: 168	Re: Installing a Temp probe Since I'm committed to the probe pipe in the hose, does anyone have some good hints on how to get the hose to slip on the rad and the block easier than plain old muscle power? Maybe talcum or some other trick that you used?

10-03-2016, 05:17 PM	#5
racingrufus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: alabama Posts: 146	Re: Installing a Temp probe I also put the upper hose mount on the head for the temp probe. I could not use the pipe in the hose because I was useing a thermostat in upper hose. Dwayne

10-03-2016, 06:00 PM	#7
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Installing a Temp probe Also if you warm up rubber it will make more pliable. Soaking it in hot! water, something I didn't do last time I put hoses on :-(

10-03-2016, 06:29 PM	#8
VFRhugh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 177	Re: Installing a Temp probe I'm with #3. I installed the steel inline pipe with temperature connection. I works great but I pulled the hose to remove a thermostat and it's starting to rust from the inside after only three weeks. Using distilled water and Water Wetter. Hugh

10-03-2016, 07:50 PM	#10
goodcar Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 293	Re: Installing a Temp probe Ditto

10-04-2016, 12:29 PM	#11
Bruce Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 489	Re: Installing a Temp probe If you use the probe tube, drill a hole in the (new) upper hose. Then cut the hose in half. Carve the hole so that when you insert the probe tube the little leg is sandwiched in the hole and the hose can be squeezed tightly together. Remember to put all four clamps on the hose, "dope" the cast Iron bits with ... Windex ... and stick it all together. If you've done a craftsmanly job, the red stripe will match up and the cut in the hose will be almost invisible. A real CRAFTSMANLY job would be to use SST jam nuts/washers inside and outside a hole through the hose to sandwich the probe in the hose. I've seen vintage setups like that at swap meets. They were very pricy, but way-cool.

10-05-2016, 08:55 AM	#12
captndan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Tennessee Posts: 714	Re: Installing a Temp probe Grease?

10-05-2016, 05:18 PM	#13
d. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 510	Re: Installing a Temp probe carl G, goodcar, so where does one find this item? looks good.