Color combination for a deluxe 1930 model A roadster (40B) ster

[vetpenny]

I have found the following information relative to the correct colors for Deluxe 1930 model A roadster (40B):
1. body-washington blue and belt and moldings- riviera blue
2. body, belt and moldings -washngton blue
If you refer to the book "How to restore your model A" 1967 edition from Model A Ford Club of America P. 48 the combination described in 1. is correct. Also if you google on the internet colors for a deluxe 1930 model A roadster, 1. is correct.
However, the book "The Ford Model A as Henry Built it" 1983 edition on P. 139 and "The Model A Judging Standards & Restoration guidelines" 1989 edition P. 14.2 under painting states that combination in 2. is correct.
Can anyone resolve this issue and tell whether both are correct or one or the other is correct. Thanks for your help.

[brito36]

Washington Blue and Riviera Blue would be correct. A suggestion would be to purchase a copy of the Model A Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards from either the Model A Restorers Club or the Model A Ford Club of America. The book gives a listing of all the colors used for your roadster and when they were phased in and out.

[vetpenny]

I have a 1989 copy and it says Washington blue for the body, belt and molding as I indicated in my email. Did a later version of the Restoration guidelines indicate the Washington blue and riviera combination was correct?

[gdmn852]

Hello, restored 1930 31 Deluxe Roadster I have seen , they are always the two tone combinations,with cream stripes and wheels.A 1930 would have had single side mounted spare on driver side , luggage rack and rumble seat as part of deluxe package also top would be tan with a chrome windshield that is about 1 1/2 inch lower than the Standard roadster. With the exception of black, deluxe are two tone.

[Bob C]

I think there have been three revisions since 1989.

[gdmn852]

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Yes information from 1989 would be somewhat dated, best idea would be to use current judging standards , my car is painted and incorrect Kewanee green from years ago.

[gdmn852]

Hello again, I have to correct myself, special ordered color were available in 1930 on deluxe models,and some of them were a solid body color, Lombard blue with Hessian blue stripe and wheels, starting in September 1930 also Andulusite blue with red wheels and stripes was available until August 1930. These are marked as special ordered color,very rare. If you are going for a points car you would be best to get the latest information available I think the last paint and refinish guide is on 4 th edition.

[todd3131]

My memory is fallible here so I am asking as much as anything. My body on my roadster was originally burgundy and from the research I did thirty years ago before the internet I found that this was what I remember to be a December of 30 Only color. I flirted with the idea of painting it that color but didn't because I love the blue. So my question is was I correct about the color and month and what month were the 31 shells started on the deluxe roadsters

[CHuDWah]

Here's a link to a page on Marco's old site:


https://web.archive.org/web/20190211...orchange.shtml


It includes a table of the Deluxe 40-B colors and a cool widget where you can see pictures of all the colors on the car.

[todd3131]

Pretty cool widget
So memory is correct now when did they start to use the 31 shell?

[vetpenny]

My engine number was late November 1930 and it has the 30 shell.

[todd3131]

I am going to start another thread so I don't hijack this one

[brito36]

The 1931 shell was used when the Victoria was produced. A letter from Ford to the Branches stated that the new 1931 shell was also to be used on the DeLuxe cars. The 1930 shell continued to be used on Standard model vehicles into 1931.

[gdmn852]

Hello again, the burgundy color you mentioned was probably Ford Maroon with black molding and red stripes and wheels. Mine car is a late 31 and of course has the 31 type radiator shell.In 1931 Ford cut back on color availability only show four.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by gdmn852

Hello again, the burgundy color you mentioned was probably Ford Maroon with black molding and red stripes and wheels. Mine car is a late 31 and of course has the 31 type radiator shell.In 1931 Ford cut back on color availability only show four.

Yup. Here are links to the 30 and 31 color charts from the MAFCA site:


https://www.mafca.com/tqa/p-30dph-drd.html


https://www.mafca.com/tqa/p-31dph-drd.html

[todd3131]

Originally Posted by brito36

The 1931 shell was used when the Victoria was produced. A letter from Ford to the Branches stated that the new 1931 shell was also to be used on the DeLuxe cars. The 1930 shell continued to be used on Standard model vehicles into 1931.

So if to clarify my car was a november car that was a deluxe and it probably came with a 31 shell? This was the one detail that kept me from returning the body to the maroon.

I have only once seen a ford maroon roadster and that was in 73 and I don't remember the shell it had. It seems most of the deluxe roadsters are either Washington or Copra drab. A Ford Maroon would be a nice change.

[gdmn852]

Hello, as discussed on other posts, what an assembly plant was supposed to do and what they did may have been to separate things.Also does your car have the two piece splash apron shields or are the the later one piece?Ford started to phase the one piece in late 1930,and some cars were so equipped.

[vetpenny]

In one of my previous posts I said that my car is a late November car with the 30 shell. Since my car was a very good original with matching numbers and I knew the previous 2 owners, I believe the 30 shell for my car is the original. However as indicated by gdmn852 a 31 shell could be possible depending on the assembly plant.

[gdmn852]

Hello again, knowing the history on your car is nice I wouldn’t change the radiator shell,as you said probably original to the car .My car history is unknown, more I work on it I think it may have been a flea market Frankenstein.The Ford maroon is shown on the Marco link, most restored cars seem to be either the stone brown (light tan) or Washington blue. I want to repaint mine, maybe go with black and green wheels. Not building a show car but like it to close, maybe touring class.