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braol · 08-19-2018, 10:40 AM

I have a seized tir rod end plug (the threaded end that screws down against the inner spring/ball). I am currently cutting out the plug and want to chase the inner threads before installing a new plug. What is the thread size? It appears to be fine pipe threads but I could be wrong...

1955cj5 · 08-19-2018, 12:00 PM

Here is an old "thread" on the subject..

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23581

I don't think they ever got around to answering your question, but these recent pictures show what I measured...that is a SAE 20 pitch gauge....hard to read in the picture.

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redmodelt · 08-19-2018, 12:14 PM

It is straight thread not pipe.

100IH · 08-19-2018, 01:06 PM

Assuming you don't have one, The tool of choice would be an enormous screw driver tip that fits a 1/2" ratchet, fits like a glove is by far the best.

denniskliesen · 08-19-2018, 03:14 PM

There Snap-on sockets in various sizes that they made, and they are called drag link sockets.

Bob Bidonde · 08-19-2018, 03:46 PM

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The end plug has 60 threads per inch, so measure the major thread diameter to get the rest of the story.

denniskliesen · 08-19-2018, 09:28 PM

Bob, didn't you mean to say 20 threads per inch? 1955cj5 showed a thread pitch gauge on the nut 20 threads per inch.

braol · 08-20-2018, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100IH

Assuming you don't have one, The tool of choice would be an enormous screw driver tip that fits a 1/2" ratchet, fits like a glove is by far the best.

I already broke the Bratton's Tie Rod End socket adapter tool. What I got is an end plug that will turn out about 1/4 of a turn and then just dead stops. It HAS to be the threads that are jacked-up. I can turn it back and forth...but, again, no more than 1/4 turn total of travel. I already bent a nice Snap-on screwdriver before I got the Bratton's tool.

braol · 08-20-2018, 10:55 AM

There is such a thing as a 1"-20 H4, Plug Chamfer Tap. This has to be what they used back in the day. A tap like that runs nearly $50!!! Let's hope it's not the threads...the attempt to insert a new plug will tell all.

denniskliesen · 08-20-2018, 11:42 AM

How much is a new tie rod end?

https://www.brattons.com/catalogsear...?q=TIE+ROD+END

briphaeton · 08-20-2018, 11:53 AM

I think you need a 1 1/16x24 tap? Bratton's old catalog said it's 1 1/16 x 24 .

braol · 08-20-2018, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denniskliesen

How much is a new tie rod end?

That's what I was kind of getting at... I just like to preserve the original parts if I can...within reason of course...

A local machine shop I called says they'll chase the threads for me for $10 and a Coke.

redmodelt · 08-20-2018, 07:23 PM

Ours is 1-1/16 X 20. braol, that would be the way to go. Taps that size are not cheap anyway.

Tom Wesenberg · 08-20-2018, 09:16 PM

I had one that was stuck so bad it wouldn't turn even after I got the tie rod end white hot. It twisted the tie rod beyond saving.

don3527 · 08-21-2018, 01:15 PM

I have an archive print for the drag link, it is 1-1/16-20

briphaeton · 08-23-2018, 05:50 PM

Thanks

08-19-2018, 10:40 AM	#1
braol Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Endeavor, WI Posts: 119	Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? I have a seized tir rod end plug (the threaded end that screws down against the inner spring/ball). I am currently cutting out the plug and want to chase the inner threads before installing a new plug. What is the thread size? It appears to be fine pipe threads but I could be wrong... __________________ "I have not yet begun to defile myself." -Doc Holliday '31 Tudor, '69 F100, '66 Mustang, '11 Ford Flex

08-19-2018, 12:14 PM	#3
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? It is straight thread not pipe. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

08-19-2018, 01:06 PM	#4
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? Assuming you don't have one, The tool of choice would be an enormous screw driver tip that fits a 1/2" ratchet, fits like a glove is by far the best.

08-19-2018, 03:14 PM	#5
denniskliesen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 877	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? There Snap-on sockets in various sizes that they made, and they are called drag link sockets.

08-19-2018, 03:46 PM	#6
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,462	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The end plug has 60 threads per inch, so measure the major thread diameter to get the rest of the story. __________________ Bob Bidonde

08-19-2018, 09:28 PM	#7
denniskliesen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 877	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? Bob, didn't you mean to say 20 threads per inch? 1955cj5 showed a thread pitch gauge on the nut 20 threads per inch.

08-20-2018, 10:55 AM	#9
braol Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Endeavor, WI Posts: 119	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? There is such a thing as a 1"-20 H4, Plug Chamfer Tap. This has to be what they used back in the day. A tap like that runs nearly $50!!! Let's hope it's not the threads...the attempt to insert a new plug will tell all. __________________ "I have not yet begun to defile myself." -Doc Holliday '31 Tudor, '69 F100, '66 Mustang, '11 Ford Flex

08-20-2018, 11:42 AM	#10
denniskliesen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 877	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? How much is a new tie rod end? https://www.brattons.com/catalogsear...?q=TIE+ROD+END

08-20-2018, 11:53 AM	#11
briphaeton Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 241	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? I think you need a 1 1/16x24 tap? Bratton's old catalog said it's 1 1/16 x 24 .

08-20-2018, 07:23 PM	#13
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? Ours is 1-1/16 X 20. braol, that would be the way to go. Taps that size are not cheap anyway. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

08-20-2018, 09:16 PM	#14
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? I had one that was stuck so bad it wouldn't turn even after I got the tie rod end white hot. It twisted the tie rod beyond saving.

08-21-2018, 01:15 PM	#15
don3527 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 33	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? I have an archive print for the drag link, it is 1-1/16-20

08-23-2018, 05:50 PM	#16
briphaeton Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 241	Re: Thread size tie-rod 'plug'? Thanks

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