Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-01-2019, 12:07 PM   #1
Dennisfly
Junior Member
 
Dennisfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12
Default Heater

Hello all.


I'm new to the Ford Barn and just bought my first "A". It came with a Model B intake manifold and carburetor. I'm considering a heater. Will any stock A heater fit? I don't have the waffle exhaust manifold. I see there are several manufacturers (autolite, etc.). Any preference as to the manufacture? I would like to not have to change the exhaust manifold if that is possible. It looks like there may be some that just fit over the existing manifold.
__________________
1929 Town Sedan (Briggs) 155B
Mitchell Overdrive
Dennisfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2019, 02:18 PM   #2
oldbird55
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: e tenn
Posts: 36
Default Re: Heater

If you want to learn everything about your car find a local Model a club.Nice people & willing to help.
oldbird55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 12-01-2019, 06:11 PM   #3
marty in Ohio
Senior Member
 
marty in Ohio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elyria, Ohio
Posts: 547
Default Re: Heater

Dennisfly,
First of all, welcome to Ford Barn. Snyder's Antique Auto Parts has what you need in their catalog. It's on page A-188. The manifold heater costs $74.95 for the complete kit. Sounds like you just got your "A" and maybe you don't have a Snyder's book. You can call them at 888-262-5712 and they'll send one out. The are in New Springfield, Ohio, and they are good folks to deal with.
Marty
marty in Ohio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2019, 06:14 PM   #4
J Franklin
Senior Member
 
J Franklin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: oregon
Posts: 4,062
Default Re: Heater

If you plan to buy the kit you can get the books there also. It might save on shipping.
J Franklin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2019, 07:22 PM   #5
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA
Senior Member
 
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 1,198
Default Re: Heater

The only problem is that you have to drill a hole in the firewall, unless you adapt the assembly and make a floor board entry area.
Neil Mylar LakewoodCA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2019, 08:33 PM   #6
Charlie Stephens
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,317
Default Re: Heater

Then you could run a hot water heater and run the hoses through the floorboards. Either old time appearing like an ARVIN (see EBAY) or street rod.

Charlie Stephens
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_1708.jpg (56.1 KB, 25 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1709.jpg (40.2 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1711.jpg (53.6 KB, 22 views)

Last edited by Charlie Stephens; 12-02-2019 at 04:46 PM.
Charlie Stephens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2019, 09:21 PM   #7
Dennisfly
Junior Member
 
Dennisfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12
Default Re: Heater

Thank you all for the prompt replies.



I already sent my enrollment application to MARC and I've attended a meeting at the Old Dominion Model A Club in Richmond and will be joining there too. They have been a great help already.


I hesitate to "deface" the original car by cutting the hole in the firewall, but I bought this to drive and enjoy, and the heater would allow me to do that to a greater degree. Was the heater an option in 1929 or an after thought?


I went to the Snyder's web catalogue and found the heater. I'm assuming the "B" intake won't be an issue but I'll call them tomorrow and ask the question. I have a restoration book and all the Service Bulletins but I want Les Andrews Red Book and I could order that and maybe combine shipping.
__________________
1929 Town Sedan (Briggs) 155B
Mitchell Overdrive
Dennisfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 01:32 AM   #8
RandyinUtah
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ogden Utah
Posts: 214
Default Re: Heater

Most heaters I have seen require cutting the hole in the firewall.
RandyinUtah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 03:15 AM   #9
Synchro909
Senior Member
 
Synchro909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 4,658
Default Re: Heater

Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyinUtah View Post
Most heaters I have seen require cutting the hole in the firewall.
And blow hot air straight onto the driver's crotch!.
BTW, the waffle manifold is impossible if you want to retain manual ignition timing.
__________________
For the first half of our life we trade our health for wealth. For the second half, we spend our wealth on our health.
Synchro909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 08:09 AM   #10
marty in Ohio
Senior Member
 
marty in Ohio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elyria, Ohio
Posts: 547
Default Re: Heater

Synchro909,
Remember the heater blows hot air into the driver's crotch only in the southern hemisphere. We, up north, still drive on the "right" side of the road. LOL.
Marty
marty in Ohio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 01:56 PM   #11
1930artdeco
Senior Member
 
1930artdeco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 2,664
Default Re: Heater

Welcome to the Barn. The Waffle type or the cover that Snyders sells requires a hole to be cut. There are heater manifolds that pipe the air in through the floorboards so you won't have to cut a hole in the firewall.


The heater was an aftermarket item that you got at the dealer. Mine came that way and it will roast you!


Mike
__________________
1930 TownSedan (Briggs)
Still learning after all these years....
1930artdeco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 03:55 PM   #12
old31
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,048
Default Re: Heater

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens View Post
Then you could run a hot water heater and run the hoses through the floorboards. Either old time appearing like an ARVIN (see EBAY) or street rod. See: https://www.ebay.com/itm/WORKING-ARV...NdzyJG&vxp=mtr

Charlie Stephens
Will that heater work on 6-volt positive ground?

Does anyone have pictures, interior and engine bay of one (or similar) that is installed?
old31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 04:49 PM   #13
Charlie Stephens
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,317
Default Re: Heater

Quote:
Originally Posted by old31 View Post
Will that heater work on 6-volt positive ground?

Does anyone have pictures, interior and engine bay of one (or similar) that is installed?
I believe most cars were 6 volt at that time and the polarity shouldn't mater on a motor so it should work.

Charlie Stephens

Last edited by Charlie Stephens; 12-04-2019 at 05:44 PM.
Charlie Stephens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2019, 05:46 PM   #14
Synchro909
Senior Member
 
Synchro909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 4,658
Default Re: Heater

Quote:
Originally Posted by marty in Ohio View Post
Synchro909,
Remember the heater blows hot air into the driver's crotch only in the southern hemisphere. We, up north, still drive on the "right" side of the road. LOL.
Marty
And we sit on the right side of the car and drive on the correct side of the road!!!
__________________
For the first half of our life we trade our health for wealth. For the second half, we spend our wealth on our health.

Last edited by Synchro909; 12-03-2019 at 04:41 AM.
Synchro909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2019, 05:31 AM   #15
Wick
Senior Member
 
Wick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Gwynn's Island Va
Posts: 1,187
Default Re: Heater

Dennis where in Va. Are you located? I'm located 75 miles outside Richmond. Lot's of Model A people all around the state. Plenty of Parts in the area also.
Welcome to group.
Wick
Wick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2020, 09:21 AM   #16
Dennisfly
Junior Member
 
Dennisfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12
Default Re: Heater

Wick,


I didn't see your post until now. I didn't mean to ignore you. I'm at Lake Anna, about 50 miles west of Richmond. I found my car in Portsmouth.
__________________
1929 Town Sedan (Briggs) 155B
Mitchell Overdrive
Dennisfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2020, 10:21 AM   #17
Bob Bidonde
Senior Member
 
Bob Bidonde's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,604
Default Re: Heater

In my 45B Coupe, I installed a ram air type heater that is a reproduction of an era accessory. This heater may not be available any longer. There is a plenum chamber around the exhaust pipe which has a second flex line connecting to a register cut into the wood floor board. The carpet under the register's grill is perforated with an awl.

This heater is better than nothing, but it is not adequate. My plan is install an electric fan into the air intake duct to improve volumetric flow.

When people inquire about this contraption, I tell them its a super charger.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN2999.jpg (85.3 KB, 85 views)
__________________
Bob Bidonde
Bob Bidonde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 12:10 PM   #18
Aerocraft
Senior Member
 
Aerocraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 1,376
Default Re: Heater

I use the Autolight “waffle” manifold in both of my closed cars, a 45B and 155A, with good results down to 20 degrees. My wife is happy with the temps which is terrific! Well worth the effort to match the exhaust and intake manifolds. The hole in the firewall is easy. Email me for pictures. Aerocraft@aol.com
Aerocraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 01:46 PM   #19
daren007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Saint Cloud Mn
Posts: 481
Default Re: Heater

What does a waffle manifold have to do with timing? I have had one car with this manifold and did not have any problems plus I have one in my present car and do not have problems with it.
daren007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2020, 09:47 PM   #20
Synchro909
Senior Member
 
Synchro909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 4,658
Default Re: Heater

Quote:
Originally Posted by daren007 View Post
What does a waffle manifold have to do with timing? I have had one car with this manifold and did not have any problems plus I have one in my present car and do not have problems with it.
Daren, I assume you are referring to my earlier post. On a RHD car, there is a boss and post cast into the inlet manifold. A bell crank is mounted on it and the rod from the steering column comes up to the bell crank and another rod goes accross to the distributor. A waffle manifold means you can't put the second rod on.
Maybe you missed that we are RHD.
__________________
For the first half of our life we trade our health for wealth. For the second half, we spend our wealth on our health.
Synchro909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:08 PM.