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Old 02-23-2020, 04:27 PM   #1
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I have started the process of replacing the front fender welting on my 33 coupe. I replaced the damaged frame horns while it is apart. I am having
problems with the gap between the hood and the inner fenders, I am not sure how much gap it had when it was new. There is no adjustment, other than enlarging the mounting holes. This project is becoming a royal pain,

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Old 02-23-2020, 04:38 PM   #2
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Here are a couple of pix
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This gap is controlled by the Radiater
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Old 02-23-2020, 04:45 PM   #4
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The back side
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Old 02-23-2020, 04:52 PM   #5
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Ted, how do I adjust it then? Thanks for your help.
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Old 02-23-2020, 05:29 PM   #6
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At least the front ,if the Radiator is cored to long which they often are it would need to be redone ,On at least one car 35 I did I mounted the radiator under the mounts ,not ideal ,it did give me a idea were it should sit .
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Old 02-23-2020, 05:33 PM   #7
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The back side , may be to do with the patch panel in the A piller ,see if the other side is the same then maybe slide the hood over to close the gap ,
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Remove the Radiator and see if it comes down ,just few suggestions ,others may chime in .
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:25 PM   #9
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The back side

Is the welt possibly too thick across the cowl? DD
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:56 PM   #10
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I do have some cowl welt ordered.
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Old 02-23-2020, 07:21 PM   #11
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Anyone know the correct height measurement for these radiators?
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Old 02-23-2020, 07:28 PM   #12
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What sort of welting do you have on the grille? Also, it appears as though you have tightened the inner fender panel to frame fasteners. Granted that there isn't much wiggle room in those attachments, they should be no more than finger tight until you have finalized the hood, grille, and front fender fit. Last, but not least, how is the fit of the hood tops to the top of the grille? That fit is adjustable through the radiator support rods to the firewall.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:01 PM   #13
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David, here are some more pixIMG_0511.jpg

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Old 02-23-2020, 08:03 PM   #14
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The grill welting came from Mike/third Gen, the radiator rods are adjusted to where the center strip is up against both stops, front and rear.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:27 PM   #15
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Your last group of photos strongly suggests that your radiator is too high and perhaps not forward enough at the bottom. Did the frame repairs that you mention in your first note impact the two gussets in front of the front cross member where the bottom of the radiator is attached?
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:14 PM   #16
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Posted this a few years back but maybe it will help here .
I start with the hood and radiator .

If the radiator is centered and the right height the hood to cowl gaps should be even all the way around .
If the gaps are tighter on the right the radiator needs to move left .
If the gaps are tighter on the left the radiator needs to move right .

MAKE SURE the radiator is level with the cowl !!!!!

If the gaps are wider at the bottom of the hood sides than on top your radiator is too high .
If the gaps are tighter at the bottom of the hood sides than on top your radiator is low .

There will be more but let us know what you have on this part .

Like already stated this is your foundation and all else works off this and a center hinge slightly long can really ball up the works .

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Old 02-24-2020, 05:58 PM   #18
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Default Re: 1933 inner fender question?

Here are a few pix of the radiator mounts, the radiator mounting holes are a little large.
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Need to see how the hood fits the cowl . That is ground zero on these fronts . All else matches to that .
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Old 02-24-2020, 06:13 PM   #20
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David, will get some more pix tomorrow, center strip is 33 inches long.

Thanks for your help.
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