1930 victoria coupe

[Beater]

Good day gents. I have opertunity to purchase one of these . 190A I think is the body number. its far from me and I cant inspect it personally. my main question for you fellas is, is it a wood frame car, or is the body a steel body without much wood in it? being new to the A world I'm not sure, I think its amordern style steel body, without much wood. just sorta wondering ho much work I'm getting myself into


anything different and super rare hard to find on them that I should be making sure is there, that's not easy to find?


thanks

[jw hash]

the main frame of the body is wood. the leather back has a little more wood then the steel back. the doors are all metal but one stripe of wood that the molding screws into. if the wood is good you might be all right, if the wood is bad take it from me it is a lot of work.

[art ebeling]

This is a 31 Steelback. I think the Leatherback has two more pieces of wood behind the rear seat. Art

[Beater]

thanks for the answers guys

[ronn]

If you cant inspect it, I would pass.

[WHN]

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If I were selling a car. I would not sell it to anyone without their personal inspection.

Having said that. I would not buy a car without personally inspecting. Enjoy.

[Chris Haynes]

There were no Victoria's made in 1930. The Victoria is a two door sedan, not a coupe.

[Bob C]

The Ford Model A As Henry Built It shows 6306 were built from November 1930 to January 1931.

[ronn]

Bob be right...............

[Oldbluoval]

And I think ford referred to it as a coupe

[Bob C]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

And I think ford referred to it as a coupe

I looked in the back of the parts book where is lists body types and
it does show 190-A Victoria Coupe 1930-31.


Bob

[Bob Bidonde]

All 190A Victoria Coupes have features that became the standard look for 1931 Model A's. Most obvious of these features is the radiator shell having an upper painted panel. The slant-windshield and the slanted rear spare wheel first appeared on the 190A.



The differences between the 190A and the Tudor body structures are so huge, for practical purposes I would say there are none. Lets see. The instrument panel and dash light are the same. Both body styles have 2 doors. Hmm! That's about it for commonality.

[Tinbasher]

See if you can find a member that's in the area that can take a look for you. May be worth the time.

[Mike V. Florida]

Not many A's are steel framed, mostly wood.

[Oldbluoval]

Mike
I'd have to look at production numbers per body style but I believe more were steel subrails than wood. However all A's contained substantial wood; mostly in the top areas and for tacking.
Coupes, tudors, roadsters, fordor phaetons, trucks were all steel subrails, all years
I think those were the lion's-share of production #'s
Except for fordors, most of the wooden frame and heavily wooded body styles were low production
Could be wrong

[desotoguy]

Advice to anyone posting their opions, better do your research on your comments, there are many guys with a boat load of knowledge about the Model A, and they have no problem correcting your post.

[Chris Haynes]

I got my first Model A, A 1931 Sport Coupe, at the age of 16. Today I am 73 and I have owned a Model every day of my life since 1961. This is the first time I have heard of a Victoria Coupe. Ya learn something new every day. :-)

[art ebeling]

To answer the second part of the original poster’s question. The rear valance, the interior window moldings, interior visor brackets, metal floorpan, seat frames, are difficult to find Victoria parts. The visor brackets are being reproduced in stainless steel, should be nickle plated. Art

[WHN]

Originally Posted by Chris Haynes

I got my first Model A, A 1931 Sport Coupe, at the age of 15. Today I am 73 and I have owned a Model every day of my life since 1961. This is the first time I have heard of a Victoria Coupe. Ya learn something new every day. :-)

Hey, I got my first Model A in 1961 to. it also was a 1931 Sport Coupe. I am now just 72, this month.

Have now had our 1929 Sport Coupe for over 40 years.

Small world. Enjoy.

[Bob Bidonde]

I still have my 1st Model A, a 1931 45B Coupe. I have owned it since 1962, so that's 56 years I have been driving it. By the way, I am 76 years young!

[30 Closed Cab PU]

My goal is to drive my A when it is 100 years old in 2030, I will be 76 then.

[WHN]

Originally Posted by Bob Bidonde

I still have my 1st Model A, a 1931 45B Coupe. I have owned it since 1962, so that's 56 years I have been driving it. By the way, I am 76 years young!

Your Grandparents look great standing next to you now restored coupe.

Congratulations.

Keep on motoring. We’re right across the sound. Enjoy.

Bill

[31 RPU]

Ford called the Victoria’s a Coupe.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by desotoguy

Advice to anyone posting their opions, better do your research on your comments, there are many guys with a boat load of knowledge about the Model A, and they have no problem correcting your post.

Yes I agree with you, and you are very correct as IMO that is the way it should be.


You bring up an interesting perspective on opinions. Society has seemingly changed vastly in this regard as it used to be considered prudent that if you did not have factual knowledge about a topic, then you listened and observed to learn without opening your mouth. It seems that folks seem compelled today to make erroneous statements about topics they really have no knowledge of just for the sake of being heard, -and if they are called out on it they defend their actions by saying it is their opinion (-which evidently justifies or validates it as being correct). This mindset is extremely rampant on social media sites where misinformation is spewed from the fingers of self-proclaimed experts, and those participants are not truly interested in correct information as it is more about how many viewers they can attract. I have been a part of Fordbarn since Gus first developed it, and there was a time when folks that repeatedly gave misinformation was not tolerated. Ironically most of the knowledgeable people here have left due to comments by the ones who repeatedly posted without knowing what they were talking about. Therefore I am in favor of folks correcting folks who are posting misinformation as that kind of information has no benefit to the hobby.


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[BillEbob]

Originally Posted by brent in 10-uh-c

yes i agree with you, and you are very correct as imo that is the way it should be.


You bring up an interesting perspective on opinions. Society has seemingly changed vastly in this regard as it used to be considered prudent that if you did not have factual knowledge about a topic, then you listened and observed to learn without opening your mouth. It seems that folks seem compelled today to make erroneous statements about topics they really have no knowledge of just for the sake of being heard, -and if they are called out on it they defend their actions by saying it is their opinion (-which evidently justifies or validates it as being correct). This mindset is extremely rampant on social media sites where misinformation is spewed from the fingers of self-proclaimed experts, and those participants are not truly interested in correct information as it is more about how many viewers they can attract. I have been a part of fordbarn since gus first developed it, and there was a time when folks that repeatedly gave misinformation was not tolerated. Ironically most of the knowledgeable people here have left due to comments by the ones who repeatedly posted without knowing what they were talking about. Therefore i am in favor of folks correcting folks who are posting misinformation as that kind of information has no benefit to the hobby.


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amen brother❗️

[WHN]

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Originally Posted by BillEbob

amen brother❗️

I also agree.

You don’t know what you don’t know.

The world is changing. Up is now down and down is now up.

Knowledge! At one time it was important.

[Bob Bidonde]

Good one WHN!