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Patrick L. · 01-31-2018, 07:29 PM

Kubota diesel ! I bought a new Kubota in 1975, it now has 9300 trouble free hours. Best money I've ever spent. Knock wood.

holdover · 01-31-2018, 08:18 PM

Looks good, sounds good, and I bet it is a hoot to drive.. Motor on

Drive Shaft Dave · 01-31-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Hand Lurker

Yeah, but they can't put ethanol in diesel. I think. Maybe.

No, but they put the soy bean crap in it.

tiger.1000 · 02-01-2018, 04:22 AM

Why not just get shot of the car and get a Kubota....starting problems overcome AND you can cut grass !

Tom Wesenberg · 02-01-2018, 09:27 AM

Go with steam, then you don't have to worry about the corn crap and soy bean crap going into the fuel. Even better, fire the water with coal to make steam.

Kurt in NJ · 02-01-2018, 10:11 AM

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I would say the spark problems are over, but new problems arise in a diesel conversion---i have been working on benz diesels for over 30 years, still drive the old ones, with the benz sometimes when #1 glowplug goes bad the glow system doesn't turn on(ignition problems), vacuum is used to shut off---had a lot of "can't shut my car off"---and with the 240 engine you had better match the motormounts to the engine, think the A ehgine can have vibrations you should drive a old benz diesel with cheap or bad motormounts---the windshield on my first 240D would rattle in the rubber with good mounts----and it's only 62hp, not hard to get with A engine not far from stock ----a 240 benz engine on stiff mounts can crack and shake off ----the 2.5 turbo diesel would be better, lighter, more powerful, less vibration
I also have Kubota lawnmower, actually 2, one split the block in 1/2 at 900 hours, the going strong at 4000 hours

Tom Wesenberg · 02-01-2018, 10:46 AM

I like my 1980 Diesel Rabbits, but all the windshields on VW Rabbits leak water onto the fuse box and cause all kinds of electrical problems. You need to drill a small hole at the lower ends of the windshield so the rain water runs out instead of inside the car.

One of my diesel Rabbits had worn out rings when I bought the car, and I didn't know that. I installed 4 new glow plugs and took off down the road. after 10 miles the engine took off accelerating on it's own, so I had to hit the brakes to keep the speed down. All the crankcase blowby had sent enough oil into the air cleaner box that the engine was running on it, and running out of control. That short drive burned my new set of glow plugs so they looked like they were cut in half with a torch.

I made an oil separator by running the crankcase vent into a 2 liter pop bottle, then connected a small hose from the bottom of the bottle to the dip stick tube, so the oil drained back into the engine. This worked great until I finally installed new rings.

Hoovercw · 02-01-2018, 10:47 AM

Can we get some closeups of the engine mounts. I have had 300D Mercedes all my driving life and have often thought about replacing My A's tired engine with a 240D rather than spend 4K building the A engine I want.

Licensed to kill · 02-01-2018, 10:59 AM

The passenger side mount is pretty straight forward but the drivers side required a but of finessing as it wanted to occupy the same space as the steering box. As you cab see, I also boxed the frame. The mounts sit on 1" rubber blocks.

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It will be a PITA if I ever have to remove the steering box. Will have to lift the motor and remove the mount.

Hoovercw · 02-01-2018, 03:00 PM

Thats some good work on those mounts. Saving the photos for my later projects. Thank you for sharing.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 02-01-2018, 03:00 PM

Chief always wanted to put a "modern" Wisconsin V-4, in a Model A.
Chiefs' Son

tinman080 · 02-01-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

No harm meant in my post #10

None taken in the slightest.....absolutely none.

Purdy Swoft · 02-01-2018, 04:49 PM

I looked at the link it does sound good .

Licensed to kill · 02-02-2018, 12:48 PM

Hoovercw, I forgot to mention that the oil filter housing on the 240 will not clear the firewall so has to be removed. I made a mount for a remote spin on and bolted it to the side of the block just forward of the driver side motor mount using holes that were already there. Just thought I would mention it.

JDupuis · 02-02-2018, 06:05 PM

Both diesel conversions look fantastic. Thanks for posting guys. Jeff

01-31-2018, 07:29 PM	#21
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Kubota diesel ! I bought a new Kubota in 1975, it now has 9300 trouble free hours. Best money I've ever spent. Knock wood.

01-31-2018, 08:18 PM	#22
holdover Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SW Virginia near the Blue ridge Parkway Posts: 674	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Looks good, sounds good, and I bet it is a hoot to drive.. Motor on

02-01-2018, 09:27 AM	#25
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Go with steam, then you don't have to worry about the corn crap and soy bean crap going into the fuel. Even better, fire the water with coal to make steam.

02-01-2018, 10:11 AM	#26
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,156	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I would say the spark problems are over, but new problems arise in a diesel conversion---i have been working on benz diesels for over 30 years, still drive the old ones, with the benz sometimes when #1 glowplug goes bad the glow system doesn't turn on(ignition problems), vacuum is used to shut off---had a lot of "can't shut my car off"---and with the 240 engine you had better match the motormounts to the engine, think the A ehgine can have vibrations you should drive a old benz diesel with cheap or bad motormounts---the windshield on my first 240D would rattle in the rubber with good mounts----and it's only 62hp, not hard to get with A engine not far from stock ----a 240 benz engine on stiff mounts can crack and shake off ----the 2.5 turbo diesel would be better, lighter, more powerful, less vibration I also have Kubota lawnmower, actually 2, one split the block in 1/2 at 900 hours, the going strong at 4000 hours

02-01-2018, 10:46 AM	#27
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... I like my 1980 Diesel Rabbits, but all the windshields on VW Rabbits leak water onto the fuse box and cause all kinds of electrical problems. You need to drill a small hole at the lower ends of the windshield so the rain water runs out instead of inside the car. One of my diesel Rabbits had worn out rings when I bought the car, and I didn't know that. I installed 4 new glow plugs and took off down the road. after 10 miles the engine took off accelerating on it's own, so I had to hit the brakes to keep the speed down. All the crankcase blowby had sent enough oil into the air cleaner box that the engine was running on it, and running out of control. That short drive burned my new set of glow plugs so they looked like they were cut in half with a torch. I made an oil separator by running the crankcase vent into a 2 liter pop bottle, then connected a small hose from the bottom of the bottle to the dip stick tube, so the oil drained back into the engine. This worked great until I finally installed new rings.

02-01-2018, 10:47 AM	#28
Hoovercw Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 63	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Can we get some closeups of the engine mounts. I have had 300D Mercedes all my driving life and have often thought about replacing My A's tired engine with a 240D rather than spend 4K building the A engine I want.

02-01-2018, 10:59 AM	#29
Licensed to kill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Alberta Posts: 930	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... The passenger side mount is pretty straight forward but the drivers side required a but of finessing as it wanted to occupy the same space as the steering box. As you cab see, I also boxed the frame. The mounts sit on 1" rubber blocks. [IMG] [/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] This underside pic is a bit dark so you have to look closely. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] It will be a PITA if I ever have to remove the steering box. Will have to lift the motor and remove the mount.

02-01-2018, 03:00 PM	#30
Hoovercw Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 63	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Thats some good work on those mounts. Saving the photos for my later projects. Thank you for sharing.

02-01-2018, 03:00 PM	#31
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Chief always wanted to put a "modern" Wisconsin V-4, in a Model A. Chiefs' Son __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

02-01-2018, 04:49 PM	#33
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... I looked at the link it does sound good .

02-02-2018, 12:48 PM	#34
Licensed to kill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Alberta Posts: 930	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Hoovercw, I forgot to mention that the oil filter housing on the 240 will not clear the firewall so has to be removed. I made a mount for a remote spin on and bolted it to the side of the block just forward of the driver side motor mount using holes that were already there. Just thought I would mention it.

02-02-2018, 06:05 PM	#35
JDupuis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Maryhill Ont Canada Posts: 834	Re: The ABSOLUTE CURE for all ignition problems..... Both diesel conversions look fantastic. Thanks for posting guys. Jeff __________________ Let's let pylons, be pylons!