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Old 06-07-2010, 02:43 PM   #41
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Thanks for the photos and info, I have seen photos of it before and it is such a neat car. Can you share with us any detailed photos of it, history and what was done to it and also the plans? Thanks T-H

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Old 06-08-2010, 09:14 AM   #42
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A very nice T racer, the photos were found with a bunch of others from the CA Bay area. Can anyone tell us more about this crew?

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Old 06-08-2010, 10:38 AM   #43
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Great thread David.

Photo below is the No.2 Ford of W.B. Scott and mechanic C.J. Smith that finished first in America's first transcontinental auto race in 1909 but was later disqaulified because of an axle change, a supposed engine change and favorable outside assistance, handing the win and $2000 prizemoney as well as the $3500 Guggenheim trophy to the Shawmut driven by T.A. Pettingill and mechanics R.H. Messer and E.H. Chappin almost five months after the conclusion of the race.
This race was a part of the Alaska-Yukon Pacific Exposition starting in New York and finishing in Seattle. Only six cars accepted the start, two Model T's, the No.1 Ford being driven by Frank Kulick and mechanic H.B. Harper, the Shawmut, an ACME, a Stearns and an Itala with the latter two never finishing the race. To this day many Ford historians dispute the disqaulification of the Model T.


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Old 06-08-2010, 01:00 PM   #44
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Kurtis.... thanks to you and all that are coming on board. With you help we can make this into a great T racing archive. T-H
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Old 06-08-2010, 04:38 PM   #45
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Looks like everyone is interested in checking out this Frontenac overhead valve head including the policeman.

Interesting to see the heat riser on the manifold and the tubing to duct hot air to the carb on the other side. Gas back then was half kerosene and they needed a lot of preheat to help it vaporize.

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Old 06-08-2010, 07:51 PM   #46
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Famous Ford employee Frank Kulick.

The track looks like Point Breeze, Philadelphia circa 1910.

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Kurtis, this was a 6 cylinder car wasn't it? If not, it had an engine setback.
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Kurtis, this was a 6 cylinder car wasn't it? If not, it had an engine setback.
I don't think it's a 6 cyl engine. Remember, Henry disliked the Model K so i don't think he would've approved the fitting of an engine that was in production 2-3 years earlier. Having said that i have read about the Super T that Kulick campained in 1911 but i have never seen a photo. I'm still searching for more info about this particular car but i think the photo is from 1910 or possibly a year later although i'm not so sure. The track is also another guess on my part. Kulick raced mostly in the Midwest during this period so it could be Syracuse or anywhere in or around the Chicago area but it could also be at Detroit where he ran the mile in under a minute.
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This photo is in a scrapbook a kid put together back in the day. Caption reads, Ringler (Pullman) leading Kulick (Ford) in the second race, a ten mile event. My guess is the Ford is equiped with wire wheels, and I see a headlamp bracket on the drivers side.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:27 AM   #50
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They had to have named this the yellow jacket.

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Excuse the Model A as he is pulling a very nice Fronty Ford.

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Old 06-09-2010, 03:17 PM   #52
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Default Great thread T-head.......Thanks n/m

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Old 06-09-2010, 04:31 PM   #53
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You are welcome n/m

The line up on Daytona beach for a Ford race on the beach during speed week. The second car in with the hood off appears to have a Fronty head.

They raced in an tight oval course up and down the beach. Photo from the Fla.Historical Society.

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This car was a powered by a D. O. Fronty that car owner Murray Earl had gotten from Leonard Kerbs of Otis, Kansas. Pictured left to right are Ted Davis, Bud Bennett, Murray Earl, and Waldo Barnett. This photo was taken in the early 1930s on the Kansas State Fairgrounds racetrack at Hutchinson, Kansas – Jack Earl collection

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Tige Beal of Anthony, Kansas is shown here at the Kansas State Fairgrounds in Hutchinson, Kansas on July 4, 1934. The car may have a rocker arm Fronty.

He had raced at Winfield, Kansas on July 29, 1933 and later formed the Southern Racing Association sanctioning body under which he promoted auto races at Anthony Downs in Anthony, Kansas just before World War II. After the war, Beal moved to Tulsa, Oklahoma where he continued his involvement in the sport as an owner of midget racing cars – Charles Pauley collection

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Bill Carroll of Lewis, Kansas with his blue three-spring Frontenac. Carroll raced this car at the Cowley County Fair at Winfield, Kansas on October 7, 1931; at the Kansas State Fairgrounds at Hutchinson, Kansas; at the DuPont Speedway in Denver, Colorado; and several times at Dodge City, Kansas - Clarles Pauley Collection

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Just showed up and really enjoying this thread. Great pictures and information.
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Just showed up and really enjoying this thread. Great pictures and information.

That's a good looking car in your avitar. Please share some info and photos with us.
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WELCOME! Now for the photos and details on your car.
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Old 06-11-2010, 09:07 AM   #60
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An Ames speedster that was in the Harrah collection.

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