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Old 06-18-2019, 03:46 PM   #1
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Default Adjusting Stipe's shock adsorber on a Roadster

Good evening, can someone give me his experience to adjust Stipe's shock absorbers on the Roadster? I've set all four to 1/2 left turn frome close position. On bad roads my roadster jumps like a pea on a drum!
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:15 PM   #2
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According to Stipe they deliver them adjusted 1/4 turn out from closed position. I would start at that setting and adjust the rear and front according to weight. Looking forward to getting mine this Thursday.
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:25 PM   #3
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It is also my understanding that the ride stiffens as you close the valve restricting the hydraulics. Some others might chime in if that is correct.
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It is also my understanding that the ride stiffens as you close the valve restricting the hydraulics. Some others might chime in if that is correct.
Only the rebound stiffens as you close the restricting valve.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:13 PM   #5
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SSsssteamer, that's good to know. That's probably why Werner's car is bouncing around a lot. His are opened a half turn. Since a shock's main purpose is to dampen the recoil this makes a lot of sense.
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Thanks for the previous hints. Does anyone have the basic attitude for a roadster? That can not be generalized, since these dampers have to regulate different body weights.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:29 AM   #7
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The service bulletins has function specs, the picture gives scale for the lever, I figured the weight at about 30 lbs
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:49 AM   #8
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Kurt, thank you.
I have this manual. But I'm looking for practical experience for the roadster.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:14 AM   #9
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I don't believe that when you adjust the shock that it only affects the rebound. Because the shocks work on a 20/80. So, when you make an adjustment it changes both fore and aft.

Try it, and prove it to yourself. I have a roadster and did this test. Disconnect the shock link, then make a change to the adjuster, then move the shock arm up and down. Make another adjustment and do the same test. You will feel a different resistance up and down on each adjustment.
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I don't think you can use adjustments that work for other cars---or that a roadster--1/4, sedan 3/8, pickup 1/2
The spring friction makes a big difference in how "tight" the shocks need to be to control body motion
Each shock will be a little different at the same adjustment setting ----setting up by the weight--time method will equalize them, from there a little tweak, a nudge can make a big difference in resistance if you feel the action is tight or loose

3 days after lubing the springs my car went from too tight to too loose and I had to tighten up the shocks, lubing the springs, tightening the shocks made the ride better and less skitter on bumpy corners
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Hello forum helper, now today I have resolved the problem with the rodeo jumps of my roadster. I had the text "anticlockwise" misunderstood! The needle valves I had first turned from the left stop 1/2 - 3/4 turn to the right. That was the wrong mistake.

Now I did it the other way around. From the right side 1/4 turn to the left. And now the car "glides" now over hill and dale like a quail in the air.

Thanks to the forum again for your good support and help!
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:26 AM   #12
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Hello forum helper, now today I have resolved the problem with the rodeo jumps of my roadster. I had the text "anticlockwise" misunderstood! The needle valves I had first turned from the left stop 1/2 - 3/4 turn to the right. That was the wrong mistake.

Now I did it the other way around. From the right side 1/4 turn to the left. And now the car "glides" now over hill and dale like a quail in the air.

Thanks to the forum again for your good support and help!


thanks for the experience....are you saying you screwed in the needle valve more?


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Old 06-27-2019, 03:09 PM   #13
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Eric, I turned the needle valves on a wrong thinking. The needles was too much opened and therefore the adsorbers did not adsorbe enough.
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:03 AM   #14
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jetzt verstehe Ich….viel Gluck.
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