The Ford Barn

john charlton · 06-14-2017, 12:17 PM

You are right the 3" bore AF engine is much smoother than a 24 HP engine ,due to less rotating weight etc etc . The bottom end is the same but smaller pistons and lighter con rod ( wrist pin end more narrow) make the difference . The AF engine produces 28 BHP at 2600 RPM which is OK on the flat but in hilly country you can really feel the difference . Luckily Suffolk is fairly flat !!! . Because of higher operating speeds the AF engine had a propensity to fret and eat the fibre timing gear . This brought the vehicle to a halt and the timing gear then changed . As the sump remained on no one thought to check the oil pump pickup filter and after a few timing gear changes the filter screen would get completely blocked with Celeron fretting debris and then terminal engine failure .I have taken oil pumps out of dead AF engines to find the oil pump screen covered with what looks like a dense brown felt layer .After WW2 24 HP Dagenham B engines were plentiful as they were used in generator sets and many other applications etc etc so the AF motor was changed for a B ,The "HP Tax" had been abolished so no extra tax for a 24 HP engine . The rear end also had to be changed to 3.78 to 1 . from 4.55 to 1 .

John in sunny warm Suffolk County England .

woofa.express · 06-18-2018, 11:06 PM

yes, I enjoyed that. but I have two questions for you.
1. do you have a little Christian cross on the boot cowl for each pedestrian you skittle.?
2. Is it compulsory to drive down those little lanes at 80 mph?

Terry, NJ · 06-19-2018, 07:23 AM

Well Done! Both the car and the run!
Terry

patnmand · 06-19-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by woofa.express

yes, I enjoyed that. but I have two questions for you.
1. do you have a little Christian cross on the boot cowl for each pedestrian you skittle.?
2. Is it compulsory to drive down those little lanes at 80 mph?

Interesting thread resurrection!

1. No but I like the idea....
2. I was only keeping up with the Austin!

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vern hodgson · 06-19-2018, 12:54 PM

All that way and on the wrong side of the road. Pretty cool.

Fullraceflathead · 06-22-2018, 11:17 PM

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Very Nicely Done!

cradlescyth · 06-23-2018, 05:42 AM

Great film, enjoyed it. Spent some time in Taunton England as it is our sister city.

Love your country side and back roads..

Bob-A · 06-23-2018, 06:52 AM

Nice car and a wonderful film clip! One question: the bug screen in front of
the radiator. Did it come with the car or did you purchase it separately.
Any possibility of getting some close up pics of the screen? I have a fondness for unusual Model-A accessories. Thank you.

Bob-A

patnmand · 06-24-2018, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob-A

Nice car and a wonderful film clip! One question: the bug screen in front of
the radiator. Did it come with the car or did you purchase it separately.
Any possibility of getting some close up pics of the screen? I have a fondness for unusual Model-A accessories. Thank you.

Bob-A

Hi Bob,

It was on the car when I bought it. From what I've learned it was made by a guy in Australia - he made a few of them and sold them. It's not very robust and I was originally going to remove it but it was one of the features that enabled the Queensland club to recognise my car and tell me who restored it so I decided to keep it.

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kd4lok · 06-24-2018, 06:20 PM

Great looking car. Nice film. Thanks.

Bob-A · 06-26-2018, 06:49 AM

patnmand,

Thanks for the reply with the great pics! I sure could use a screen like that
here in Florida, USA.

Especially when we have the infamous "love-bugs"
swarming about in May and Sept.

Bob-A

06-14-2017, 12:17 PM	#21
john charlton Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,304	Re: A little film you might enjoy You are right the 3" bore AF engine is much smoother than a 24 HP engine ,due to less rotating weight etc etc . The bottom end is the same but smaller pistons and lighter con rod ( wrist pin end more narrow) make the difference . The AF engine produces 28 BHP at 2600 RPM which is OK on the flat but in hilly country you can really feel the difference . Luckily Suffolk is fairly flat !!! . Because of higher operating speeds the AF engine had a propensity to fret and eat the fibre timing gear . This brought the vehicle to a halt and the timing gear then changed . As the sump remained on no one thought to check the oil pump pickup filter and after a few timing gear changes the filter screen would get completely blocked with Celeron fretting debris and then terminal engine failure .I have taken oil pumps out of dead AF engines to find the oil pump screen covered with what looks like a dense brown felt layer .After WW2 24 HP Dagenham B engines were plentiful as they were used in generator sets and many other applications etc etc so the AF motor was changed for a B ,The "HP Tax" had been abolished so no extra tax for a 24 HP engine . The rear end also had to be changed to 3.78 to 1 . from 4.55 to 1 . John in sunny warm Suffolk County England .

06-18-2018, 11:06 PM	#22
woofa.express Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Tocumwal, NSW, Australia Posts: 1,748	Re: A little film you might enjoy yes, I enjoyed that. but I have two questions for you. 1. do you have a little Christian cross on the boot cowl for each pedestrian you skittle.? 2. Is it compulsory to drive down those little lanes at 80 mph? __________________ I know many things, But I don't know everything, Sometimes I forget things. And there are times when I have a long memory.

06-19-2018, 07:23 AM	#23
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: A little film you might enjoy Well Done! Both the car and the run! Terry

06-19-2018, 12:54 PM	#25
vern hodgson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: langley, wa. Posts: 642	Re: A little film you might enjoy All that way and on the wrong side of the road. Pretty cool.

06-22-2018, 11:17 PM	#26
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,175	Re: A little film you might enjoy Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Very Nicely Done! __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

06-23-2018, 05:42 AM	#27
cradlescyth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Taunton Ma Posts: 342	Re: A little film you might enjoy Great film, enjoyed it. Spent some time in Taunton England as it is our sister city. Love your country side and back roads..

06-23-2018, 06:52 AM	#28
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,137	Re: A little film you might enjoy Nice car and a wonderful film clip! One question: the bug screen in front of the radiator. Did it come with the car or did you purchase it separately. Any possibility of getting some close up pics of the screen? I have a fondness for unusual Model-A accessories. Thank you. Bob-A

06-24-2018, 06:20 PM	#30
kd4lok Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Central FL Posts: 72	Re: A little film you might enjoy Great looking car. Nice film. Thanks. __________________ Bob

06-26-2018, 06:49 AM	#31
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,137	Re: A little film you might enjoy patnmand, Thanks for the reply with the great pics! I sure could use a screen like that here in Florida, USA. Especially when we have the infamous "love-bugs" swarming about in May and Sept. Bob-A