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raisinhel · 06-30-2015, 11:54 AM

40 convertibles have heavier windows with the chrome trim around the glass therefore use a "gear re-ducted regulator. (you turn and turn the crank to raise/lower windows and the windows go sloooow up/down and that is fine when they work smoothly.)
we have fought with a few 40 convert regulators long enough. changed gears, had gears made... aligned the window for free movement, etc...

Drake 40 convertible regulators aren't built the toughest either with a potmetal gear and are not sold separate, have to buy a pair.

anyone use a 2 door regulator in a convertible, or any other regulator other than buying power units?
does a 2 door regulator have the window crank in the same place as a convert?

Kube · 06-30-2015, 12:16 PM

Convertible window regulators are quite unique, especially when compared to closed car units.
I have to wonder why you are having so much difficulty. I am willing to bet you are over looking something.
Can you move the window (w/o regulator in place) up and down easily? How are the tracks? How about the rollers within the frame?

raisinhel · 06-30-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

Convertible window regulators are quite unique, especially when compared to closed car units.
I have to wonder why you are having so much difficulty. I am willing to bet you are over looking something.
Can you move the window (w/o regulator in place) up and down easily? How are the tracks? How about the rollers within the frame?

couldn't get the window to go up and down any smoother, adjusted nicely, nice rollers, lubed...
every 40 convert we have ever had which is only 3 in the last 40 years had a drivers window problem.
we had 2 regulators over to a private machine shop to make one, the guy is 'very handy. put the regulator in and still have to help it up/down.

we put in a lot of late model regulators here at work, have pretty good experience playing with windows and regulators. the Darn 40 convertible gear re-ducted regulators go bad or are forced at one time become useless. -- I think a regular non gear re-ducted 40 regulator would work fine in a convert if the crank etc end up in the same spot through the door panel. anyone tried this?

supereal · 06-30-2015, 02:13 PM

My '47 convertible had a regular (non convertible) regulator on the passenger side so it can be done. However, the correct regulator is geared to handle the heavy glass and frame. It does take nine turns to move completely up or down. The regular regulator will usually shuck teeth from the handle gear over time. I finally found the correct regulator in a Missouri junkyard. It was badly worn and rusty/dirty, but worth the search. I'd try that before adapting a regular regulator.

nospartsman · 06-30-2015, 11:27 PM

With a little searching NOS window regulators can still be found for 1940 Ford convertible, check with Little Dearborn Minn Mn, Southside obsolete Fairbault Mn, Early Ford Store in San Dimas, Ca, All Ford Parts Campbell, Ca Jim at Rosemead (Gene Scotts NOS parts) Also ask for 1940 Mercury Convertible regulators with a slight modification can be used in Ford.

my2nd40 · 07-01-2015, 08:41 AM

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I modified two door sedan regulators to use in my 40 Convertible. It's been quite a while, but I only worked with the length of the arms. I didn't change anything about the gear set. I spent lots of time with them getting the proper arm length and getting the window channel installed so the windows would go up and down smoothly. It's been 10 years now and they are still working, but I am fortunate to have a pair of good originals just in case.

raisinhel · 07-13-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by my2nd40

I modified two door sedan regulators to use in my 40 Convertible. It's been quite a while, but I only worked with the length of the arms. I didn't change anything about the gear set. I spent lots of time with them getting the proper arm length and getting the window channel installed so the windows would go up and down smoothly. It's been 10 years now and they are still working, but I am fortunate to have a pair of good originals just in case.

EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. THANKS!!
im now on the hunt for a nice drivers side 2 door regulator.

06-30-2015, 11:54 AM	#1
raisinhel Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: southern Mn. Posts: 89	1940 window regulator question. espically convertible. 40 convertibles have heavier windows with the chrome trim around the glass therefore use a "gear re-ducted regulator. (you turn and turn the crank to raise/lower windows and the windows go sloooow up/down and that is fine when they work smoothly.) we have fought with a few 40 convert regulators long enough. changed gears, had gears made... aligned the window for free movement, etc... Drake 40 convertible regulators aren't built the toughest either with a potmetal gear and are not sold separate, have to buy a pair. anyone use a 2 door regulator in a convertible, or any other regulator other than buying power units? does a 2 door regulator have the window crank in the same place as a convert? Last edited by raisinhel; 06-30-2015 at 11:59 AM.

06-30-2015, 12:16 PM	#2
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,995	Re: 1940 window regulator question. espically convertible. Convertible window regulators are quite unique, especially when compared to closed car units. I have to wonder why you are having so much difficulty. I am willing to bet you are over looking something. Can you move the window (w/o regulator in place) up and down easily? How are the tracks? How about the rollers within the frame? __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

06-30-2015, 02:13 PM	#4
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: 1940 window regulator question. espically convertible. My '47 convertible had a regular (non convertible) regulator on the passenger side so it can be done. However, the correct regulator is geared to handle the heavy glass and frame. It does take nine turns to move completely up or down. The regular regulator will usually shuck teeth from the handle gear over time. I finally found the correct regulator in a Missouri junkyard. It was badly worn and rusty/dirty, but worth the search. I'd try that before adapting a regular regulator.

06-30-2015, 11:27 PM	#5
nospartsman BANNED Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 409	Re: 1940 window regulator question. espically convertible. With a little searching NOS window regulators can still be found for 1940 Ford convertible, check with Little Dearborn Minn Mn, Southside obsolete Fairbault Mn, Early Ford Store in San Dimas, Ca, All Ford Parts Campbell, Ca Jim at Rosemead (Gene Scotts NOS parts) Also ask for 1940 Mercury Convertible regulators with a slight modification can be used in Ford.

07-01-2015, 08:41 AM	#6
my2nd40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Paris, Tennessee Posts: 182	Re: 1940 window regulator question. espically convertible. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I modified two door sedan regulators to use in my 40 Convertible. It's been quite a while, but I only worked with the length of the arms. I didn't change anything about the gear set. I spent lots of time with them getting the proper arm length and getting the window channel installed so the windows would go up and down smoothly. It's been 10 years now and they are still working, but I am fortunate to have a pair of good originals just in case.