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Old 06-20-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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Hello Everyone, I guess I'll get it started. <mister obvious> Much more to come...

Two of these greet visitors to the meet complex that includes two hotels, two restaurants, a pub, and a movie theater.

On a side note, anyone coming to town might look at the official visitors site. Helpful info.

http://www.destinationgettysburg.com/
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Jeff, I will be there with my '32 Standard Coupe. Will be setting up in the Swap Area with '32 "stuff." See you there!

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A couple of more. I'm arriving Sunday morning.

Pat, the grassy field in the last photo is where the swap meet is getting setup.
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Thanks Jeff!

That's good info. If you arrive before I do...go ahead and plant that big shade tree right in the middle of that empty field!!

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The Flat head Fords are rolling in. Just returned home. Took my 1937 slant back tudor to Gettysburg. Signed in as I was pre registered got my goody bag and drover over to tech inspection. Every thing in working order except my horns were a little weak. Had pics of the car taken by staff and off to the secure parking lot. Car will be judged on Wed, hope to win a Rouge Award for interior & exterior. Had a very pleasant day. Ray
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Hi Everyone, I arrived at about 8am and stopped working at 7pm. Shew-weee it has been along day. I was occupied most of the day so I didn't get very many photos. Posting these without further immediate comment.
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Jeff, c'mon... that's only a half days work... LOL Thanks for posting, I like the tractors and Frank's car and your '36 are lookin' good too! Have fun!
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Hi Everyone, I've had a brain fart and posted the most recent upload of photos to the registration thread:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...195#post899195

Too punked out to re-do it. More fun scheduled for tomorrow. Put over 150 miles on the Phaeton today.

I talked with another FordBarn'er Marcus, during the movie about Gettysburg.
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Here is some more. Lots of trailers. And a picture of my red beauty to show I made it to just look. Zeke
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Gettysburg pictures....
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I like the picture of JM. How does he do it?? Like a magnet attracting wimmun of all ages. LOL
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Jeff please post more photos! I wish I was there... have a great time!

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John, you are lookin' good, hosting a couple of future V8'ers
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Here's what I got today. I'm sorry but I haven't done a lot of car photos. Been scurrying from task to task, tour to tour.
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Great photos - Thanks for posting.
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From Wednesday Concourse .....
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Great cars!! Can not wait. I will there Saturday to look at the cars.
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I think everyone will be gone by then and on there way home. I believe tomorrow is the last day and even today the swap meet was 95% gone except for 2 vendors.

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I think everyone will be gone by then and on there way home. I believe tomorrow is the last day and even today the swap meet was 95% gone except for 2 vendors.

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You mean the car show will be over on Thursday. Man I hate that. It is hard for me to get off of work during the week to go to a car show. I never heard of car show ending middle of the week. Does all the Early Ford Car show end before the weekend? Thanks for heads up.
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Next year is your big chance to be there...It's at Charlotte, NC

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Willie, Everyone leaves Friday ÀM. Many gone on Thursday. Don
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Why is the Early Ford car show not on the weekends? It is hard to get off of work during the week and bring the family. I am glad that next show is in Charlotte. Is there going to be Saturday show? So the working people can go enjoy the show with there family.

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36 ford, you posted some nice pictures from todays show field. I saw your car there but did not get to meet you.
I'll attempt to post some of my pictures taken during yesterdays tour and todays show field. It has been a great meet, with plenty of nice cars, including the nice people who own them.
These pictures were taken at the Bad Donkey Garage, located in Hanover Pa, which is turning out some very fine hotrods as well as some very nice high point original cars.
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John,

I met the fellow who built that 32' 5 window with the chevy hood but did not know that was from a local rod shop. Thanks for the pics from their shop and the info about their shop. I may take my 39 over there for them to finish.

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Here's a question for everyone that was at the meet but first, thanks to all who posted photos for those of us that couldn't be there. Now, the question; what would you say was the ratio of restored (As Henry built it) cars to modified cars at the event?
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More pictures taken today on show field......
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Great pictures everyone. Phil, I looked all over for your 36 but never did see it. I hung around JM's car but never saw him either. Stopped by the Appalachian Brewery for a bite to eat and when I came out at 2:30 most of the cars had moved.
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Here's a few more.
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Wow, Great Photos!!! Thanks for posting.
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Next year is your big chance to be there...It's at Charlotte, NC

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Cool..... I have relatives there I can sponge off of. I may make that one.
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I met the fellow who built that 32' 5 window with the chevy hood but did not know that was from a local rod shop. Thanks for the pics from their shop and the info about their shop. I may take my 39 over there for them to finish.

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Wow thats interesting. One person built the green 32 hotrod.
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Cool..... I have relatives there I can sponge off of. I may make that one.
Jim:spa I think they are my distant relatives of mine also see if they have spare bed for me ????? lol / lol
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Hi Everyone, Vic, to your question. The show field had plenty of point judged cars, but I think overall, the V8 club has more members with cars that are not 100% factory correct than those who are going for the 1000 points.

Take my car for example, I don't have leather interior. That's something that would kill my car with the concours judges.
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Great cars!! Can not wait. I will there Saturday to look at the cars.
So Willie,
You made the first post back in January 2013 on my original thread giving all the info on this meet including the dates.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94950

"Man that is great it just 10 mile from uncle house. I am hoping to meet some the guys on Fordbarn. Hope to see you there. You have to give me your number so we can meet up. June 23 will be here soon"

You knew exactly when these cars would be here. When the meet would start and end. I believe many of your posts are just trying to promote conflict.
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Jeff, thanks for that observation, I appreciate it. It has long been my opinion that members of the EFV8 Club, (especially younger members, 55 to 65 years of age) appear to like their Flatheads Hopped Up just a bit and, like me, they enjoy driving their Flatheads beyond the on/off ramps of a trailer. The photos are super, and it sounds like everyone had a good time. I love seeing restored & over-restored cars almost as much as seeing the modified cars on display with them.
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Hi John, with respect to the EFV8 Club holding the Meets in the middle of the week, I've long thought that that was a mistake, because it limits the number of attendees to those that are retirees. As for members that still work, it may be difficult to take time off and, lets face it, most members families don't want to spend their allotted vacation time at an EFV8 Meet... I'm just sayin'...
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Hi John, with respect to the EFV8 Club holding the Meets in the middle of the week, I've long thought that that was a mistake, because it limits the number of attendees to those that are retirees. As for members that still work, it may be difficult to take time off and, lets face it, most members families don't want to spend their allotted vacation time at an EFV8 Meet... I'm just sayin'...
I agree it is mistake to have show in middle of the week. People who have family and work it is hard to go to these shows. If you want the Early V-8 Club to grow it needs to be on the weekend. So everybody can enjoy. Early V-8 Club can show the next generation the enjoyment of early Ford cars. I remember going to early V-8 show years ago and everybody had left. I was surprise that they had ended show before the weekend. John hope the next big show Charlotte will include the weekend. I know shows like the Moonshine Run in Georgia includes the weekend.

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I took a half day off work yesterday to attend the show. I had an absolutely wonderful time (aside from a serious sun burn!) Every single person that I crossed paths with was great to talk to, willing to share their knowledge or just shoot the breeze(what little there was).
I was glad to be able to walk around knowing that everyone there was into the same stuff that I am. Not a field of tire kickers. Thank you to everyone involved for putting this together and having it located close enough that I could make time to attend.
It was great to meet a few people I've only talked to online, and many more that I met at the show.
Special thanks to JM35 for the distributor part I needed.

This sure was a kick in the pants to get my own V8 cars on the road and be able to be a part of the events.

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Zach, good to meet up with you and get to meet your Dad. When you get that '39 delivery on the road, I am sure us V-8ers will enjoy seeing that at one of these meets in the future. I think many of us prefer seeing the survivors in their original patina, as much, if not more than a high point restored show vehicle.
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Hi John, with respect to the EFV8 Club holding the Meets in the middle of the week, I've long thought that that was a mistake, because it limits the number of attendees to those that are retirees. As for members that still work, it may be difficult to take time off and, lets face it, most members families don't want to spend their allotted vacation time at an EFV8 Meet... I'm just sayin'...
Vic, I believe a big factor for the days picked to have these meets involves negotiating with the hotels for a large block of rooms at a reduced rate. These hotel rooms probably go for a premium to travelers during the weekends. Many of our RG members were actually here at the hotel the end of last week, as well as the weekend before the meet, getting things ready for this show. I got here Sunday at noon and there were plenty of old Fords parked all around the hotel parking lots for those who would want to come and look at them. As you well know, based on the gatherings you have promoted, it's difficult to please all the people all the time.
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Interesting to note that this great little '36 is now sporting a windshield wiper, unlike the lack of one when it was unfortunately involved in a recent "fender bender" on the rainy morning of June 8th. Glad the damage was apparently limited. DD



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The no weekends bit has always annoyed me...the club is very much a geriatric organization, it seems to me, and I do not like that even though I'm part of the geriatric set...
My local chapter, at least the people who attend, will be completely extinct in 15 or 20 years. Regional club events seem about the same.
Over on the HAMB...LOTS of young people learning the flathead ropes. Yes, they are modifiers, but they are generally people who respect the Ford design and aesthetic, not the electric windows, airbags, and LS-1 engine crowd at all. Many are still in their 20's, some are even teenagers, and of course they have to be very dedicated to try to cope with current flathead and early Ford costs.
These are the future, and they are people who have jobs and children in school...they will never see a Monday through Thursday show. And neither will anyone casually interested, people who might be hooked and become flathead fanatics if they could stop by a show!
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Vic, I believe a big factor for the days picked to have these meets involves negotiating with the hotels for a large block of rooms at a reduced rate. These hotel rooms probably go for a premium to travelers during the weekends. Many of our RG members were actually here at the hotel the end of last week, as well as the weekend before the meet, getting things ready for this show. I got here Sunday at noon and there were plenty of old Fords parked all around the hotel parking lots for those who would want to come and look at them. As you well know, based on the gatherings you have promoted, it's difficult to please all the people all the time.
John, I agree with you about not being able to please everyone however, as we all know, ours is not a cheap hobby to be involved in, and for the EFV8 Club, trying to save a few dollars on hotel rooms comes at the expense of all the members that can't take time off during the work week. I'm sure that, given the choice, most members would opt to pay a bit more for a hotel room, if it enabled them to attend the meet... I'm just sayin'
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John, I agree with you about not being able to please everyone however, as we all know, ours is not a cheap hobby to be involved in, and for the EFV8 Club, trying to save a few dollars on hotel rooms comes at the expense of all the members that can't take time off during the work week. I'm sure that, given the choice, most members would opt to pay a bit more for a hotel room, if it enabled them to attend the meet... I'm just sayin'
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Willie, are you plannin' on going to the 2014 Moonshine Festival? If so, will you join us (the Cigar City Flatheads) on the White Knuckle Tour on Friday, October 24th? Hope to see you there. Vic
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The no weekends bit has always annoyed me...the club is very much a geriatric organization, it seems to me, and I do not like that even though I'm part of the geriatric set...
My local chapter, at least the people who attend, will be completely extinct in 15 or 20 years. Regional club events seem about the same.
Over on the HAMB...LOTS of young people learning the flathead ropes. Yes, they are modifiers, but they are generally people who respect the Ford design and aesthetic, not the electric windows, airbags, and LS-1 engine crowd at all. Many are still in their 20's, some are even teenagers, and of course they have to be very dedicated to try to cope with current flathead and early Ford costs.
These are the future, and they are people who have jobs and children in school...they will never see a Monday through Thursday show. And neither will anyone casually interested, people who might be hooked and become flathead fanatics if they could stop by a show!
I agree young people is our future. Thanks for the post.
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Despite having to leave early and not taking a car, I had a great time and met many great people. I was impressed with the number and quality of cars there, and was happy to see the amount of early cars (32-36's) in the show.
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Hotel room costs are one of two major factors in choosing the days of a meet, the other being to allow weekend travel time for V8ers driving their cars to be in the Concourse. V8 Club meets have always been scheduled for the convenience of the members, including travel time between the three National Meets each year.

Dedicated V8ers will block out next years vacation days to include the V8 meet of their choice, while the naysayers will always have excuses for not going to a V8 Meet, and will always tell us how we should have done it to please them.
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Alan, just for the sake of satisfying my curiosity... What is the difference between traveling on a week day or a weekend??? Also, typically, hotel occupancy is stronger on weekdays than on weekends. This is due to the large amount of business travelers during the week. Thus, the weekend room rates are generally cheaper...! Check any of the myriad hotel/motel room web sites... I'm just sayin'. It appears to me that the EFV8 Club is wrong on both counts. Also, I know from my own experience, when my kids were small, and I was a member of the EFV8 club, they and my wife had little or no interest in going to any automotive events on vacation. There are a lot of "dedicated V8ers" who won't "block out their next vacation, at the expense of their family's, to attend an EFV8 Meet. If the EFV8 club really wants to accommodate their membership, perhaps they should take a survey to get a consensus. They might find that holding the Meets over a weekend would be preferred, imagine that. We all know that you can't please everyone all the time but... It would be nice if they gave it a try.
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Like I said, the naysayers will always tell you how to do it, but will never actually lend a hand.
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One of todays tours traveled to the Eastern Museum of Motor Racing in Latimore Valley, Pa. and then on to the AACA Museum in Hershey, Pa. Here are a few pictures taken at the EMMR...
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John in post #61 what is the Engine????
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John in post #61 what is the Engine????
Bill, I wish I knew. It looked like an experimental 60hp V-8 engine to me. The guys we talked to at the museum didn't know either. Lynn Paxton would know but he was not there when we toured the museum.
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Alan, just for the sake of satisfying my curiosity... What is the difference between traveling on a week day or a weekend??? Also, typically, hotel occupancy is stronger on weekdays than on weekends. This is due to the large amount of business travelers during the week. Thus, the weekend room rates are generally cheaper...! Check any of the myriad hotel/motel room web sites... I'm just sayin'. It appears to me that the EFV8 Club is wrong on both counts. Also, I know from my own experience, when my kids were small, and I was a member of the EFV8 club, they and my wife had little or no interest in going to any automotive events on vacation. There are a lot of "dedicated V8ers" who won't "block out their next vacation, at the expense of their family's, to attend an EFV8 Meet. If the EFV8 club really wants to accommodate their membership, perhaps they should take a survey to get a consensus. They might find that holding the Meets over a weekend would be preferred, imagine that. We all know that you can't please everyone all the time but... It would be nice if they gave it a try.
None of the explanation fits about hotel room. There are a lot shows that are during the weekend. GG show are during the weekend. The Moonshiner show is during the weekend. A lot of local show during the weekend. These show have a lot of people that goes to these shows. I am still a working man and family man. Vacation need to be w/ the family. Cars are hobby. I feel that EFV8 are leaving a lot of us out the pic. when planning these shows. Soon are later it will hurt the club. I go to about 3 big shows a year. That requires renting a rooms or camping they are all on the weekends. Vic and Bruce thanks again for comments keep up the good work. Peace

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I don't believe anyone is sure on the origins of the V8-60 looking engine in post #61. If any of you have any known details, please contact the museum. www.emmr.org.
Also, tonight at Williams Grove and tomorrow afternoon at Latimore Fairgrounds, there will be track time for antique race cars. If any of you are still in the area you may enjoy stopping by to hear them roar!
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Like I said, the naysayers will always tell you how to do it, but will never actually lend a hand.
C'mon now Alan, that's a cop-out and you know it! By making that statement, you have become a naysayer to those that you apply that same moniker... Talk about being hypocritical... If the EFV8 Club is afraid of change, they are destine to become a dinosaur, and we all know what happened to them...
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C'mon now Alan, that's a cop-out and you know it! By making that statement, you have become a naysayer to those that you apply that same moniker... Talk about being hypocritical... If the EFV8 Club is afraid of change, they are destine to become a dinosaur, and we all know what happened to them...
It is really bad when you start calling people names. When you losing the battle of words. It is hard to believe Hotel cost is want sets the date for show. I believe I know the real reason. This would set the site on fire. I hope when the Charlotte show is planned that Saturday day is included show. That site of show being held will welcome everybody that is interest in Flathead fords. Let learn from mistake and grow the hobby. So that everybody can enjoy the hobby. Lets not put in box so that feel people can enjoy.

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Any of you guys that made it to Gettysburg and are willing to go a little further can come by and see my Duece Roadster and have crab cakes on me. I'm about 100 driving miles from DC but if you got a boat it's only 15 miles across the Bay to my garage. I got to start using up the crab meat we picked out in October. You can buy live bushels, from my next door waterman neighbor, if you want to spend the night at the Cambridge Hyatt.

Look behind my roadster and you can see the ship to the left, in the middle of the Bay.


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Hi Everyone. This is a photo thread. Plesae start another for non photo discussions.

I'm almost the last man out of the meet. Many more photos to come.

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Any of you guys that made it to Gettysburg and are willing to go a little further can come by and see my Duece Roadster and have crab cakes on me. I'm about 100 driving miles from DC but if you got a boat it's only 15 miles across the Bay to my garage. I got to start using up the crab meat we picked out in October. You can buy live bushels, from my next door waterman neighbor, if you want to spend the night at the Cambridge Hyatt.

Look behind my roadster and you can see the ship to the left, in the middle of the Bay.


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Bob, that's a very nice offer! Nothing like a Maryland Crab Cake and a cold beer. Wish I could make it. I got home from one of the best Early Ford V-8 Meets, that I can remember, at about 10:30 am and we are now on the way to Ocean City, MD for a long weekend gathering of family. Steamed Crabs are on the agenda!!
Maybe we will meet up at one of the shows here in MD so I can see that Roadster. You might enjoy the Rodders Journal Revival to be held later this year at the Pimlico Race Course.
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I'm almost the last man out of the meet. Many more photos to come.

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Thanks Jeff, looking forward to seeing more photos from the event.
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So tell us real reason.

What RG do you belong to? You need to get involved with your RG and the National (if you are a member) and try and change it that way.

Technically these are not public events--These meets are Club Events organized by the Club for Club Members.
I like to personally thank for your comments. I think you might have something there. Thanks again
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Tangled, I took my off topic post down. Sorry about helping to hijack this thread.

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It's all good everyone. I was being a little bitchy in post #71. Couldn't you hear a baby crying? Waaaaa. I can when I read it now!

I did my part to get this off topic, see post #42, so what the heck, why don't we keep going on what is on our minds? No sarcasm intended. It's what we do best here, write what is on our minds.

So here goes...

Personally, don't see these as non-public events. In fact one of the things I wanted to do but didn't was to spread the word among the locals that we were coming to town and to come out and see what we're up to. I regret not acting on the thought. Maybe I'll mention it to the Illinois crowd.

It has always bothered me that we don't see more locals at the shows. A nice lady drove up to my trailer at about noon today and said "When's the show" it hurt when I had to say that she'd missed it. She said something funny about telling her husband to get over there earlier in the week after she'd seen some cars, and him saying he never heard her say it!

One of the best times I've had a V8 meet was the town square event that was held at the Central meet in Auburn, where we filled an admittedly small downtown, with flat motors! It had a vibe that was great. I even hitched a ride, really with my thumb out, to a CVS to get batteries for my camera. The folks who picked me up took me to the store and back to the square. Epic! (Now I keep at least 8 AA's in the glove box, learn't my lesson.)

Also, for the thought that having the shows during the week discourages participation, it is a valid point. But keep in mind that we will never be a huge show like the NSRA Street Rod Nationals that I attended a few weeks ago that _was_ on a weekend, even though I had the most fun on a Thursday and less fun on the show day Saturday.

As for the thoughts that the V8 club is in trouble with their demographic, that too is valid. Also valid is that they are slow to change direction. Some people interpret the V8 club as a dictatorial organization because they care what color your nuts are. But their charter says they're about 'as Henry mad it'. Even though a goodly portion of members don't have their cars point judged (me among them), and some that do swear they will never do it again (as one of our local club members said to me this morning, at a previous show he had over 950 points, this show less than 800 and the judges spent an hour on his car according to the owner).

The National President said in his meeting this week that he thinks about both of those problems and encouraged members to act by encouraging change by contacting their Regional Directors with their opinions (allowing dropped axles for example, and electric fuel pumps are always a hot topic for the Judging Standards Committee), and to encourage members to help recruit new blood. (I'm almost 55 and considered a teenager by this crowd! It's actually an ego boost for a semi-old fart.)

A strategy a member pointed out that worked well for their Regional Group which grew their membership from the 60's to the 120's by passing out old issues of the V8 Times with a local and national membership form tucked inside, when they were approached by people admiring their vehicles.

And another effort that the President mentioned was to drop V8 Times issues at Doctor's offices. After all, the V8 club's demographic likely spends more time in waiting rooms than the NSRA's, or even the AACA's.

As for time off, I don't expect everyone to do this, but, are you ready... I have to request time off 6 months in advance. I can get all the unpaid time off I want as long as I let my supervisor know with enough lead time. I don't think everyone can do this, but it's what I do.

Ok, sh_t, I've spent enough time on this already, I want to get to posting some more shots.
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I'll start with a 'show's over' photo of me putting the car away about 4:30 this afternoon after a run around the Battlefield driving tour. You'll figure out the rest..

Sexy'est running boards I've ever seen on Larry's Zephyr.
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Doofus, first upload didn't work, here's the show's over shot... I just figured something out, I thought it was user error, but , FordBarn seems to prefer me to upload from my hard drive rather than my camera card, hmmm. Dang it just happened again this time from my HD. I'll try uploading just a shot or two at a time...

The first few cars at the Monday tour stop I was manning were Mercs! Big

That red truck was a seven year old restoration and it was very tasty! Nice creature comforts in the cab (no tilt wheel ), warmed up flattie, duals. The owner did it to be a good truck for what he wanted.
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Oops, I see I posted that last one twice. I said earlier I can't walk past that car without stopping. The Meteor has a color-change paint job and trick tail lights that blend I think a '59 Caddie onto the Meteor orignals, neat! Green to Choclate-ish, but in a good way. First thing I asked him when he walked back to the car was about the lights, just way cool.

Tuesday's tour was to a collection of a local club member for donuts and juice and coffee and, well, goodies, then to the Bad Donkey shop, then UTZ chip factory & factory store, <insert lunch> a Mustang/Cobra/Shelby shop, then a sulky horse breeding farm that was 2000 acres and had some stud fees 20G's (reserving comment). Lunch was at an honest to goodness DRIVE INN, where gaggle of ninteen-year-old waitresses wholesomely dressed, with old-school change makers, get your order at the car window, and bring it back! Our group elected to use the shaded picnic tables, maybe it was cooler than sitting in the car, maybe it had a better view of the action... Just sayin' Sorry boys but it just wouldn't have been appropriate to take photos.

A shot of my Mom Helen helping to clean the windows before we set out. She drove the Phaeton for about ten miles the other day when I was getting her primed for the meet and I was out cruising in the Ford. She's got about fifteen thousand miles behind the wheel a '31 A Roadster that my Dad had to have, but as it was our second car, she had to use it as HER grocery getter with bro and me in the rumble!

Concours day was, well, a miracle. There was literally a 69% chance of rain at 9 am according to weather.gov. We didn't see a drop until after sunset.

Did I say it rained 36 3w's. Two of them, one rumble, one trunk, were assigned to my team. The only thing our chassis team found was non-painted V8 on the hub-caps of one of them, and that may be a debatable 1 point deduction.
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The engine in post 61 looks like the cosworth dfv (double four valve) formula 1 ford. Made in the late sixties. 182 cu in 450 hp. Harley
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I've sat back and read many of the comments/criticisms regarding the times the meets are held, the lack of young people, etc. As someone who has been directly involved in several Western National meets and four Grand National meets I think I'm qualified to comment. First let me comment on the days chosen to hold a meet. As someone who has negotiated hotel contracts ( I negotiated the contract for the last Grand National) and have traveled great distances to other meets I have never found weekend hotel rates to be cheaper on the weekends. If that is the case, I welcome Vic or anyone else to find a hotel in a nice area with those cheaper weekend rates. It comes down to whether you want a good rate during the week or a more expensive rate on the weekends. The more expensive rate can also be harmful to our younger people who are on a budget.

Our meets are always held in great locations. Unlike Goodguys or NSRA who always have their meets in the same locations, they are able to negotiate hotel rates from year to year based on a large volume of people. They are also a commercial enterprise, so they have lots of $ for down payments and make promises to hotels to meet the minimum requirements of the contract. As a non profit we do not have the $ or the sheer numbers to be able to negotiate "sweet heart" deals with hotels on the weekends. Unlike Goodguys or NSRA our meets are held in areas that can include a great vacation along with attending the meet. The meets are scheduled well in advance and it gives people time to plan their vacation time to attend. When I was still working I had to plan vacations almost a year in advance. Thank goodness the club meets were advertised far enough ahead that I could request my vacation to attend a meet.

Let's take Gettysburg for example. Bring your car and family and then take a couple of days away from the meet and explore the area. At the same time the kids can learn a little about the history of our great country. They'll probably learn more in Gettysburg than they will in school. I'm sure there are other attractions close by for the wife and kids. No one says you have to spend every waking moment at the meet. You are not locked in to any one event , so your time spent there is your time to use anyway that you wish. I can name several other past meets that were beautiful vacation spots.

As for encouraging young people that has always been a problem. It's a problem in every social organization that has been around for a long time. Check your local Elks Lodge or any other fraternal organization. They are all having trouble recruiting young people. I hear the same problem from the Model A Club and the Model T Club. The hobby is expensive and it's tough on a growing family's budget. If any one of you want to sell your V-8 at 1/3 it's value, so a young person can join he club please hold up your hand. Maybe we should look at bringing in cars from 1954-1959?(Both Goodguys and NSRA have done this very thing). They're cheaper and may appeal to the younger people. I've asked around and that issue gets people real excited on both sides of the aisle. We also have to face the fact that some of the younger generation just doesn't have the interest. Check around with your own kids and the neighbor kids and I'll bet you find little interest, even within your own family. Most kids today want a new Honda with a big stereo and loud exhaust. They know absolutely nothing about how to use a wrench. You can thank your local school system for that problem as auto shop, etc. has been phased out for computer classes.(I'm trying to leave out the politics with that one).

So if any of you have an easy answer, I'm all ears and willing to try anything that has some merit. If you are not happy with the club and want to make a difference please consider running for a Director position. New people can inject new ideas and we welcome anyone who has ideas to help keep or increase our membership and bring in young people. It's interesting to note that many of the commenters on this site who have criticized the V-8 Club are not V-8 club members. I welcome criticism as long as you can offer a viable solution to the problem. Simply doing a "hit and run" criticism of the club without offering a solution will go in one ear and out the other with me. You are more than welcome to contact me via e-mail, personal message on this site, or calling me. My number is in the current V-8 Club roster. I've been a member since 1974 , so I'm not going to go away anytime soon(I hope).
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Sorry for double posting more than one photo. It's been a hectic week. I'll get back to the photos next post so skip along if you like!

Okay the bitch mode just might have come back... <ducking>

#12 Zeke, Trailers??? I drove through he field, I think it was Wednesday, and counted 86! Before the meet my butt was puckered that we wouldn't have enough space, but we coulda handled an easy twenty more. BTW there was security there each night! Kudos to the 'Barners who selected the site!

A thought on some of the cars and people that intersected throughout the week. At Prueitt's shop there was a spectacular car, I think an '03 Cadillac, that was in for a new upholstery job (shout out to Scott who also did the top on our Phaeton). At the AACA Museum, just one of the awesome cars, was an '03 Ford that was almost a dead ringer for the Caddy. I know why, but it was neat.

We also saw an engine from Prueitt's in the AACA Museum's ''local chapter" room. An ENGINE was being used as a yearly award. I've never this room open before, or never found it, and I've been there four times in the last year! There were windshield cards from the old days, Glidden Tour stuff, local club show plaques for twenty years, and a bunch of aerial shots of the Hershey meet over the years. Great stuff.

I took one of the Docents for a spin around the parking lot and he showed me the barn where the overflow cars are! He spotted my fender skirts when I drove up, eagle eye, and commented how he was a big fan. I didn't have them on Sunday but was able to pop over to Dad's house on Monday and pick them up.

There were things we saw at EMMR that we crossed paths again with at Hershey.

At Bad Donkey we saw cars that would show up at the Concours!

#17 Brendan, I know you would have loved to come, but life happens man. I'm thinking of you and your truck as I'm posting all of these! Hey, where do you keep the keys?

#23 The Red '37 Station Wagon. OMG What a story. All this is third hand gossip, but here's my story. A lovely couple, wife described as '80's, DROVE this to the show, a significant amount over 125 miles. The night they arrived, hubby had a health event. Needless to say they couldn't pay attention to the car. But the way I heard it some good Barners/V8 Club Members made sure the car was covered at night (it rained twice during the evenings), put on the show field, and even hauled back to it's home garage after the show, so the family could, well, you know, do what they should do rather than worrying about a silly Station Wagon. Good people are still out there. This was an exceptional car IMHO, I hope the future is good for its owners, and selfishly, for the car too. A real beauty just the way it is, but, potentially, a Pebble Beach quality car, it is that sound. It ended up winning an award, not sure for what, but most cars do anyway. Both a happy and sad story, on many levels, all in one.

#44 Vic, I swing both ways. It's pretty awesome to crawl under a '36 Coupe that looks as nice as, or nicer , than it came off the assembly line. My car is mostly original but has been restored once and I sure love it. I love the Rouge maybe the best. But the right hotrod can get my blood pressure up as I posted from the NSRA meet.

#47 Zach, I'm sorry I was so distracted the four times I ran across you on Wednesday. Man I hate it I can't be in York Springs Saturday! Let the dirt/dust/mud fly!

#48 JM 35 Sedan said: "I think many of us prefer seeing the survivors in their original patina, as much, if not more than a high point restored show vehicle." X2

#49 Vic, Room rates... True story. I was at the front desk today, after our checkout time, that is, after 12:00, and there was a guy trying to rough up, get this, the Front Desk Manager, for a lower room rate. He had a good story, but the Manager was coming back to each comment. They guy was whining about a $189 room rate and how he brings enough business to get a decent break on the regular deal. I had to wait while the second person at the desk was working on a mini-crisis, and all I wanted was some change, so I stood there for about three or four minutes. The Manager satisfied the guy with a $169 rate and the geek was happy.

Our rate was $127! <bast_rds get another $14 in taxes so a $127 rate is really $140.97, it adds up quickly>

I'm not saying it was cheap. I split a room and my bill was a biscuit over $350 plus the $20 I left for housekeeping. I'll admit that hurts not just a little, but I'd also say we got a deal on an extremely nice Hotel. My room was cleaner than any room I've stayed in in the last two years. It was a nice place. I liked the towels.

The housekeeping let me peek in the big suite near our room and, let me tell you, there was a shower area, no a room, that, well if it was a VW Beetle, I'da liked to see how many people could get in there if you get my drift!

There was a weekend crowd coming in for a Lacrosse tournament and I'm pretty darn sure that those folks are getting fleeced vs. the V8'ers.

And #58 Vic, You seem to like to discuss the V8 Club, but are you a member, or maybe sometime in the past, but not currently? I don't know if there is a history.

As I've said in my long postings today, the V8 club is not without flaws, it's run by Committee for goodness sake so that is the stroke of doom. But I'm sure you know I have a great deal of admiration and fondness for you. We have shaken hands more than once, so please don't take this as me coming down on you like a ton of bricks.

The only way to get them to change is get in there and push a little. I wouldn't blame you at all if you didn't want to try, heck I sure can't at the stage of life I'm at, but, if you/we/I didn't then we'll never know if they'll come around to accepting an electric fuel pump without it being, tip of the hat here, hidden in such a way that it could fool 100 out of 100 judges.

As for holding the meet over a weekend. I've been 'at the meet' from Friday to Friday (I had to skip out to work on last Saturday), so that's a span of eight days.

I didn't even scratch the surface of what Gettysburg and surroundings have to offer. I saw more than one flathead on the Battle fields today, Friday, the day after the meet ended.

More photos to come.
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Jeff, I forgot to mention in my previous post to thank each and every person who makes themselves available to work on a V-8 Meet. Without volunteers these meets would not happen. Critics abound, but real volunteers are scarce and really appreciated by all of us. I am sorry that I could not come to Gettysburg. It looked like a great time and in a wonderful area. Kudos to all of you that worked on the meet. It's a big task. Tom Johnston, EFV-8 Club
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There are a couple of building and monuments that are icons. The gateway arch of the cemetery was in existence at the time of the battle. The Lee Monument can not be enhanced by words. The Pennsylvania Monument is enhanced by too many words but is, well, indescribable.

I tried to focus on the Pennsylvania Monument in the photos because it is close to the High Water Mark and is visible from many places on the battlefield, even if it is a mile or so away.

I drove the loop as the Park Service has it. I will reorder the photos to fit the days of the battle. Starting from the Vistor Center Parking lot, then we go to the northwest corner of the field for the first day...

A mounted group of Rebs came down the road under the traffic light to find a group of Yanks with cannons, I believe. A Yankee General was shortly killed or mortally wounded.

Photo 7, What looks like a picture of a bridge... I was trying for the train tracks below. Some Yanks hid in the 'railroad cut' and it didn't end well for them.

Photo 8, The Eternal Peace Light Memorial was first discussed in 1913, but took until 1938 to get done. Not a battle marker or monument, but moving none the less.

Photo 14 is of the College, the Seminary of Seminary Ridge. The Cupola was used as a lookout by both sides at points during the battle. A very historic place, and if I'm not mistaken, it houses the Historical Society, a very cool place to visit.
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Second day. The Reb's try to sweep the Yanks off the Little Round Top.

The 20th Maine was memorialized in the book Killer Angels by Michael Shaara, a Pulitzer Prize Winner in 1974.

Segways and motorized trikes are rentals for guided tours..

4 Below the Little Round Top was a massacre of men from both sides in areas called Devil's Den and Slaughter Pen.

5 Gen. Warren and in background Pa Monument and The Angle/High Water Mark looking north as seen from Little Round Top

6, 7, 8 In the valley looking up at Little Round Top and shots from the Slaughter Pen/Devil's Den.

Photo 9, Site of the famous staged Sharpshooter photo. http://blogs.archives.gov/prologue/?p=12345

Photo 10, Cannons were not easy to get to a spot like this. The front line waved forwards and backwards multiple times in relation to this photo going towards the Little Round Top. Cannons were captured in this area

11, NY's Irish Brigade (3 infantry units, and 1 battery, a group of cannons), Wolfhound a sign of honor and Fidelity.

12 PA monument in the back, Minnesota on the left.

13 PA Monument, The temperature was 85 outside, and I couldn't go more than 25 mph for about two hours or so. Didn't spill a drop.
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Here are some pictures I took during the banquet Thursday night. I did not see an unhappy face in the crowd. The Food was very good.
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Bob, that's a very nice offer! Nothing like a Maryland Crab Cake and a cold beer. Wish I could make it. I got home from one of the best Early Ford V-8 Meets, that I can remember, at about 10:30 am and we are now on the way to Ocean City, MD for a long weekend gathering of family. Steamed Crabs are on the agenda!!
Maybe we will meet up at one of the shows here in MD so I can see that Roadster. You might enjoy the Rodders Journal Revival to be held later this year at the Pimlico Race Course.
Actually you drove past my house on the way to OC

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I've sat back and read many of the comments/criticisms regarding the times the meets are held, the lack of young people, etc. As someone who has been directly involved in several Western National meets and four Grand National meets I think I'm qualified to comment. First let me comment on the days chosen to hold a meet. As someone who has negotiated hotel contracts ( I negotiated the contract for the last Grand National) and have traveled great distances to other meets I have never found weekend hotel rates to be cheaper on the weekends. If that is the case, I welcome Vic or anyone else to find a hotel in a nice area with those cheaper weekend rates. It comes down to whether you want a good rate during the week or a more expensive rate on the weekends. The more expensive rate can also be harmful to our younger people who are on a budget.

Our meets are always held in great locations. Unlike Goodguys or NSRA who always have their meets in the same locations, they are able to negotiate hotel rates from year to year based on a large volume of people. They are also a commercial enterprise, so they have lots of $ for down payments and make promises to hotels to meet the minimum requirements of the contract. As a non profit we do not have the $ or the sheer numbers to be able to negotiate "sweet heart" deals with hotels on the weekends. Unlike Goodguys or NSRA our meets are held in areas that can include a great vacation along with attending the meet. The meets are scheduled well in advance and it gives people time to plan their vacation time to attend. When I was still working I had to plan vacations almost a year in advance. Thank goodness the club meets were advertised far enough ahead that I could request my vacation to attend a meet.

Let's take Gettysburg for example. Bring your car and family and then take a couple of days away from the meet and explore the area. At the same time the kids can learn a little about the history of our great country. They'll probably learn more in Gettysburg than they will in school. I'm sure there are other attractions close by for the wife and kids. No one says you have to spend every waking moment at the meet. You are not locked in to any one event , so your time spent there is your time to use anyway that you wish. I can name several other past meets that were beautiful vacation spots.

As for encouraging young people that has always been a problem. It's a problem in every social organization that has been around for a long time. Check your local Elks Lodge or any other fraternal organization. They are all having trouble recruiting young people. I hear the same problem from the Model A Club and the Model T Club. The hobby is expensive and it's tough on a growing family's budget. If any one of you want to sell your V-8 at 1/3 it's value, so a young person can join he club please hold up your hand. Maybe we should look at bringing in cars from 1954-1959?(Both Goodguys and NSRA have done this very thing). They're cheaper and may appeal to the younger people. I've asked around and that issue gets people real excited on both sides of the aisle. We also have to face the fact that some of the younger generation just doesn't have the interest. Check around with your own kids and the neighbor kids and I'll bet you find little interest, even within your own family. Most kids today want a new Honda with a big stereo and loud exhaust. They know absolutely nothing about how to use a wrench. You can thank your local school system for that problem as auto shop, etc. has been phased out for computer classes.(I'm trying to leave out the politics with that one).

So if any of you have an easy answer, I'm all ears and willing to try anything that has some merit. If you are not happy with the club and want to make a difference please consider running for a Director position. New people can inject new ideas and we welcome anyone who has ideas to help keep or increase our membership and bring in young people. It's interesting to note that many of the commenters on this site who have criticized the V-8 Club are not V-8 club members. I welcome criticism as long as you can offer a viable solution to the problem. Simply doing a "hit and run" criticism of the club without offering a solution will go in one ear and out the other with me. You are more than welcome to contact me via e-mail, personal message on this site, or calling me. My number is in the current V-8 Club roster. I've been a member since 1974 , so I'm not going to go away anytime soon(I hope).
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Bob, would have loved stopping for a crabcake but we live in the northeastern section of MD. No Bay Bridge crossing for us. We go a little north and then down through Delaware and stay in the community of Bay Side, off Rt 54. Not really OC, MD but close.
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Hi Everyone, Post 77 &79, that yellow engine, Frrank Miller pointed out to me that the head is on backwards. Anyone know why?
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Very good post and photos of our hobby and National history, thank you for posting!
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Jeff, you may have been near the last to leave, but I returned around 3:30pm and picked up the raffle engine and trailer. There were still 3 trailers on the grounds, and the 8N tractor and compressor. I posted this on another thread, but i will repeat that Don Ingersoll in NW New York state won the engine.
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Could it be 8BA heads on a 59A block? When I was a teenager an old time hardtop racer gave me a set of Offenhauser 8BA heads to put on my 59A block. He told me when I did so that I would have to mount them backwards for proper cooling.
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Here are 3 "grandfathers" survivor cars from the Gettysburg ENM. I found 2 more cars but didn't get pictures of these. The 37 stake is mine, my grandfather taught me to drive in it. The 41 pickup was restored in 1982 and still looks as good as new. The current owner said he played on the cab of the truck when he was a kid. The 37 coupe is an original car, both brothers drove this car to high school. One of the 35 Fords at Gettysburg was driven by the owner to college, to his wedding and to his 50th wedding anniversary. I suspect there were more survivors at Gettysburg but these are the ones I know about.
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Here's the Hard Luck award winner from the Gettysburg ENM. He hit a deer on the way to Gettysburg. It got the left front fender of the 32 roadster, the left rear fender and crumpled the trailer fender on the tire on the first axle. He figured he'd just load the 32 on his open trailer, what could go wrong...
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Bob, would have loved stopping for a crabcake but we live in the northeastern section of MD. No Bay Bridge crossing for us. We go a little north and then down through Delaware and stay in the community of Bay Side, off Rt 54. Not really OC, MD but close.
I hear you, I'd say you get about 35 miles from my place. Offer is open anytime my friend.
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Vic, In answer to post 33, These are rough numbers not official or from the club, just a survey from some photos: Concourse 55; Dearborn Emeritus 34; Touring A 32; Touring 25; Rouge 21; Dearborn 14; Display 4. Point jugded or walk around = 103. Display, Touring (both), and Rouge = 82.

What I said earlier is not backed up by this sample, there are more cars leaning towards 'as Henry made it' than there are that are identifying themselves as modified.
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I have never found weekend hotel rates to be cheaper on the weekends. If that is the case, I welcome Vic or anyone else to find a hotel in a nice area with those cheaper weekend rates. It comes down to whether you want a good rate during the week or a more expensive rate on the weekends. The more expensive rate can also be harmful to our younger people who are on a budget.

Well, lets see TJ, I think the Tampa Bay Area is a "nice area" and in fact, it is a vacation destination! I know how to check room rates, and we (the Cigar City Flatheads) have held the Florida "Barner's Bash" for the past eight or nine years, over a three day weekend, (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) and I've been able to negotiate less expensive room rates as a result. While our event is much smaller in size (at least so far ) when compared to the EFV8 Meets, that has not impaired us in any way, with respect to providing nice accommodations for our participants, at discounted rates. I would think that an event looking to book a few hundred rooms, would have even more bargaining power...? I would agree that scheduling events is no easy task but, this weekday scheduling of Meets by the EFV8 Club has been questioned by both members and non-members (thanks to social media) for a number of years, and as far as I can tell, little or no consideration has been given, by the powers that be in the EFV8 Club, to making any changes. It appears that suggestions that go against the status quo, fall upon deaf ears.

I am no longer a member of the EFV8 Club, I left a number of years ago however, I will echo the concerns that have been voiced here by both members and non members alike. If an organization (car club) does not modify its mantra to accommodate a changing demographic, it will no doubt be left to wither and die, and I don't think any of us, members or not, want to see that happen.
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Vic, since you are no longer a member maybe you should reconsider and rejoin. Since you apparently have the capability to negotiate great room rates for weekend events you can certainly be of help in setting up weekend V-8 events. Why not be part of the solution to the perceived problem? If people want to go to Tampa Bay year after year that's O.K. by me. Are you negotiating with Motel 6 or is it a nice place where the wives would be comfortable staying? What time of year are you negotiating the rates? Is it the prime tourist season or is the off season? When you say discounted rates, how much of a discount? $5 a night,$10 a night and how much is the regular rate? Lots of missing info here Vic. A discount could be $1 a night and still be a discount. I reiterate that since you are no longer a member you are still welcome to criticize the club. The problem is your bias against the club continues to show in your posts. I have no idea what your problem may be, but at some point you need to get over it.
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TJ, first, I'm no longer a member of the EFV8 Club for a number of reasons, not the least of which is their refusal to put such things as event dates (weekends or not) up for a vote, for example. To your other questions; we schedule the Florida "Barner's Bash" in February, the height of tourist season and we negotiate room rates at nationally recognized high quality hotel chains. Tampa Bay is, has always been, and will continue to be, a prime vacation destination. Glad you approve of people wanting to make return trips to the area, I'll sleep much better knowing that... As for specific $ discounts, that depends on the venue, its proximity to the beaches and/or other tourist venues, as well as the number of rooms, but you should already know that. Typically, we select a centralized location, making it easy for all participants. One thing we don't do, is utilize the hotel grounds aka parking lot, to stage any of our weekend events. If the EFV8 Club would like to avail themselves of my negotiating skills, I'd be happy to discuss a proposition. As for my bias toward the EFV8 Club, as you put it, I'll get over it when the club starts recognizing, appreciating and acting on the wishes of the membership, not just the few that hold positions in the hierarchy. As for our group, the Cigar City Flatheads, we are not a structured club, we're just a group of people that share a common interest in Flathead Fords. We do not collect dues nor do we have chartered chapters, produce a magazine or hold national/regional events. One of our members, from New England, Bill Wzorek created the "Miss Shelly" Award for our Florida "Barner's Bash" event. There is no car judging, the award is given by majority vote to an individual that has contributed to the continuance of the hobby, they don't even have to be in attendance or drive a Flathead to receive the award. Further, anyone is welcome to attend our events, they don't have to drive a Flathead although many of them do, and in fact, they drive a considerable distance to participate and enjoy the event and the Tampa Bay area. Make no mistake, I did, and do, enjoy attending EFV8 Club Meets, in fact I hold three awards in the Touring Class, Two first and one second place for my '47 & '53 Convertibles. I sincerely hope that you continue to enjoy participating in the EFV8 Club and its National & Regional Meets. I know I will continue to promote Cigar City Flathead events as long as people want to attend and enjoy them, in Tampa Bay or Dawsonville, Georgia or anywhere else we might want to congregate,
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It looks like from the pic of the award Banquet must of the people there was retirement age. They have more time to go to the show during the week. V8 Ford club has not reach out to the younger Flathead owner having the show during the week. After read must comment a lot of V-8 show is during the week. Why is the cost of Hotel room such a big deal? When we spend thousand dollars a year on our cars?

Let us read again TonyM comment post #74. This guy is a V8 Ford club member.

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Technically these are not public events--These meets are Club Events organized by the Club for Club Members.[/QUOTE]

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The only comment I will make is that it is not the Early Ford V8 Club that makes the decision for what dates the meet will be held, but it is the Regional Group that is hosting the meet. It is based upon the local conditions in that region. I have attended 14 National meets in the last 10 years, and plan on going to Springfield, Il in Aug. and the meet hosted by the No Va RG in 2007 is the only one that the Concourse was held on Sat. Personally, I prefer the weekday event.

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It is unfortunate that this thread has turned into a political forum and does not address the original intent. The Gettysburg meet was one of the best organized EFV8 Club meets ever, and the number and quality of the cars displayed was fantastic and show that the right location, ease of access, and the on site facilities were perfect for this type event and well accepted by those that continue to support the club with their membership. Age has little to do with these events, and is a reflection of the ownership of the cars that we appreciate.
To those who donated countless hours to put on a great event, thank you. To those who chose for the own personal reasons not to attend, you missed one hell of a show.

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Other thoughts, if I may. These events usually span 4 days, so week days will be involved no matter what, and for those who travel a distance, added time. A venue like Gettysburg in peak season can get quite busy and make tours of surrounding areas much more difficult.

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Just for the record, I will post some old threads that may give some history of those who "hijacked" this post that was suposed to be a picture post thread of the Gettysburg Meet.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ight=Charlotte

For those who came the wrong day to see the cars at Charlotte, here is a post that leads to a file that had pictures of every car on the show field.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ight=Charlotte
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Thanks for posting that JM35. Very illuminating. Wow.










See Post # 2.
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I agree with 40a-760 and JM 35 Sedan. This thread was for pictures of the V-8 meet. I for one had a GREAT time. This post is not for you people who are unhappy with the V-8 Club. Contact them with your gripes, I think most of us don't want to hear your bitching!
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woodiewagon, well said. My apologies for being involved in the hijack. I just couldn't sit idly by while people(non members) with personal agendas criticized the V-8 Club. I will continue to give the V-8 Club and all the hard working people who put on the meets 100% support. Over and out.
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Tony M Thanks for your post #74 on this thread it is also very illuminating. WOW!!
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It is unfortunate that this thread has turned into a political forum and does not address the original intent. The Gettysburg meet was one of the best organized EFV8 Club meets ever, and the number and quality of the cars displayed was fantastic and show that the right location, ease of access, and the on site facilities were perfect for this type event and well accepted by those that continue to support the club with their membership. Age has little to do with these events, and is a reflection of the ownership of the cars that we appreciate.
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Great pictures everyone. Phil, I looked all over for your 36 but never did see it. I hung around JM's car but never saw him either. Stopped by the Appalachian Brewery for a bite to eat and when I came out at 2:30 most of the cars had moved.
bbrust, sorry I missed you. I'm thinking we may have been in the Appalachian Brewery at the same time . I was in there having a couple cold drafts with two friends while they had lunch. When I got back out to my car the show field had pretty well emptied. I did find Zach Suhr and his dad there by my car. Was glad to meet up with them. Zach is a young man who is very interested in these early Ford V-8's exactly as they may have been done by many of us back in the day, in the '30's, '40's, and '50's. He owns some very nice early Ford V-8's. He is also someone the V-8 Club would embrace as a new member.
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Tony M Thanks for your PM post to me and for educating me about the Early Ford V-8 car shows. I was confused but now I see the light. I am sharing this email w/ the world so that they would know, not be confused. This should clear everything up and we can move on. If any Fordbarners would like me to forward this PM post from my friend please let me know.

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Others have said the same thing--These events are for the members not non-members. What is the big deal? Some one pointed this out to you four years ago when you were crying about the same thing.

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It only costs $10 to be a member and you get a great magazine besides.
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BrianCt, EFV8CA regular membership with the magazine is $35 or $38 includes spouse, membership without the magazine is $15 or $18 includes spouse. Like everything else, expenses increase. Still a great value!
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For those who are not currently members of the Early Ford V-8 Club of America you can click here and sign up now....https://secure.cornerstonereg.com/efv8/index.ht
If you missed the Gettysburg Meet, you still have time to join up and register for the Central National Meet in Springfield, IL. You also have time to sign up for the Western National Meet. Don't be left out of the fun and great opertunity to see all these nice Early Ford V-8's in the future!!

Also, for those of you in the Southeast, don't forget the Charlotte/Concord ENM in 2015. I am sure all the details for this meet will be posted on the EFV-8 Club's website as well as here on Fordbarm. Don't be left standing in the background wishing you had been there.
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For those who are not currently members of the Early Ford V-8 Club of America you can click here and sign up now....https://secure.cornerstonereg.com/efv8/index.ht
If you missed the Gettysburg Meet, you still have time to join up and register for the Central National Meet in Springfield, IL. You also have time to sign up for the Western National Meet. Don't be left out of the fun and great opertunity to see all these nice Early Ford V-8's in the future!!

Also, for those of you in the Southeast, don't forget the Charlotte/Concord ENM in 2015. I am sure all the details for this meet will be posted on the EFV-8 Club's website as well as here on Fordbarm. Don't be left standing in the background wishing you had been there.
Here is the info for the Central meet:


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