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Old 06-29-2019, 07:44 AM   #1
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Default 36 ford transmission shifter very slopy

Replaced.my transmission with a used one looked inside everything looked good but when I got it together I found the shift handle very sloppy had to use the handle off my transmission was wondering if anyone had any input on what needs to be done or replaced thanks Tom
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Old 06-29-2019, 08:44 AM   #2
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Restore the ball size on the shifter, and the gates in the forks. That will take care of it. Also, the longer the shift handle, the looser the shift will feel.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:19 AM   #3
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Weld up the slot and file it back to fit the hardened pin.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:43 AM   #4
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Ole Don, can you elaborate on what tool to use to file the slot after welding? I have one that needs closing up and am not sure how to accomplish getting the slot back to a uniform size. I was thinking it might be a job for a machine shop.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:54 AM   #5
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In addition to restoring the slot in the shifter, the pin could be worn as well as the hole for the pin in top of shift tower.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:57 AM   #6
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The hole in the top of the shifter tower is somewhat difficult to repair if it’s worn but it’s doable. We have the repair tips for the lever itself here:

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ems-levers.htm
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:08 AM   #7
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My friend with a Bridgeport mill cuts new slots in levers for me after welding them up. Accurate and perfect parallel sides.
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Old 06-29-2019, 01:56 PM   #8
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Did you remember to put the pin in that aligns the lever? If it is missing it may be in the transmission and you had better find it before the gears do.

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Old 06-30-2019, 09:52 AM   #9
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for the shift lever slot take a drill bit set & try a bit that fits tight in the slot use the chuck end not the cutting end.now reverse the bit drill the tower to that size .now reverse the bit again & push the chuck end in measure & cut it to the lenth needed use a die grinder to cut the bit. or have the sloth welded & then bring to a machine chop & have a new slot cut between the welding & machine work expect to spend over a hundred dollars
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:02 PM   #10
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The pin is not really a precision item ,we did a 29 Chrysler that the shift was all over the place ,we migged up the sides of the slot then recut it with a cut of wheel, nice shift after that
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:35 PM   #11
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Checked all the different problems you guys thought it could be and it turns out the hole in the tower is very worn this shift tower is a 40-7222 and is called a slant back style the other tower I have is a 38-7222 it shifts great but the shifter fork is not the same size so I thought maybe someone might make an oversized pin to repair this problem or find a shift tower from someone on the barn and just replace it thanks Tom 518 573 7447 if someone has the part
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:07 PM   #12
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Unless i"m mistaken, that "shifter fork that is not the same size" is the valuable later part used to put stronger, later model gears in the transmission. Don't lose it.
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I suspect that you meant to type that you have a 68-7222 shifter housing. This could be used on your 32-35 gearset with one change. You would have to replace the B-7100 low/rev gear with a 67-7100 gear (has straight cut gear teeth but a larger diameter fork flange) to match the larger low/rev fork in this tower. Unless someone has changed out the 2nd/high fork, it will already be correct for your gearset. Lastly, the 68-7222 tower will require that you open up the hole in the transmission cover sheet metal to clear the top of the upright tower.

Don’t be tempted to grind the tips of the existing low/rev fork in the 68 tower. You could make it fit your early type gear fork groove but the fork tips would look like toothpicks when you got done grinding.

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Checked all the different problems you guys thought it could be and it turns out the hole in the tower is very worn this shift tower is a 40-7222 and is called a slant back style the other tower I have is a 38-7222 it shifts great but the shifter fork is not the same size so I thought maybe someone might make an oversized pin to repair this problem or find a shift tower from someone on the barn and just replace it thanks Tom 518 573 7447 if someone has the part
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:05 PM   #14
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The hole in the top of the shifter tower is somewhat difficult to repair if it’s worn but it’s doable. We have the repair tips for the lever itself here:

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ems-levers.htm
I had asked about the 7206 Housing guide pin over in Early Ford group and they referred me to Ford Barn where they said you occasionally post. I think this pin guides the second and high shifter fork so it does not lean and the fine synchro-teeth engage well. It appears to be on all Ford 3-speeds from 1932-1939, including Model B. It does not appear to be in Model A. Until, I had looked at some Model A and Model B photographs of shifters and also went to your site and saw you sell the whole 7222 where this would be an included part I did not wish to trouble you. I have your book and the Ford Green book both of which have no more information on this part. Thanks for the courtesy.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:55 PM   #15
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Badassfrombadaxe: Did you ever get a reply regarding a source for this part, i.e. B-7206 Guide Pin? I'm taking a transmission apart right now and will need a replacement. Thanks!
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:27 AM   #16
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I'm sure Third Gen Auto has them.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:34 AM   #17
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You can use a b-7155 pin and cut it down after installation


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Old 01-31-2020, 12:02 PM   #18
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That's was my 'plan B' 35fordtn. Mac VP also suggested it but said 'plan A' should be to try and reuse the original pin (presumably since it's tapered at one end). Mine is bent slightly so I'll see if it can be straightened out first. Thanks!
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